>> rose: welcome to the programment we begin this evening with robert kaplan. his book is about geography and the power of geography in geo political relationships. the new book is called asia's cauldron, the south china sea and the end of a stable pacific. >> a hundred years ago people could say south america doesn't matter, africa doesn't matter. now every place matters, every place to be strategic because every place is interlocked with every other place by technology. but it's only by starting with geography that you understand what's going on in every place. i'm arguing for sequence of understanding. it's not geography or technology, it's not geography or human values, it's starting with geography to understand everything else. >> rose: we conclude this evening with a look at the indian elections. we talked to milan vaishnav, sadanand dhume and jonathan shane issue and arvind panangariya. >> the last thing is seeing governments of the kind which has not done great. >> rose: is it about corruption or incompetence. >> it is both. >> rose: the power of geogra

i'm pleased to have robert kaplan at the table. >> thank you. >> let me start with the ukraine. how do you see it through the you havethe book written about jogger fee? >> there is a difference between analysis and policy. analysis has to be cold all -- cold-blooded. policy has to be moral. what we have seen with the speech in europe was moral inspirational leadership. here is the problem. jogger where the story fee tells. ukraine is thrust so far forward east, and the social asia lead developed by russia -- so far east, and so developed by russia, the ukraine was where russia started. ukraine matters more to any russian leader then it matters to the united states, or even leaders in europe. as president obama's job to say no,the europeans to it matters to us. we die for our ideals through the 20th century. we cannot let this stand. obama knows the difficulties through his realistic analysis. he has to inspire europe to do more because of geography. europe is in mash with the russian economy. russiaork going from into central and western europe. bulgaria, ore germany, or the bal

it's the latest from robert kaplan, author of 15 books, and kaplan served for two years on the defenseoard during the obama administration. he also wrote this week's time cover story about geopolitics and the new world order. i want to start with something nubz this book. you write, behind all questions of morality, like questions of power, humanitarian intervention in the balkans was possible only because the serbian regime was not a great power, unlike russia, which at the same time was committing atrocities of a similar scale in chechnya, where wi the west did nothing. it is the balance of power itself, a lesson that humanists do not want to hear. and you say humanists there as a foreign policy reference. you could also say a lot of progressives and human rights advocates don't necessarily want to hear that or agree with that. what do you mean by that and how does that analysis of russia relate to what's happening today? >> right, the issue with russia is an issue of geography. ukraine is just too thrusty and to spatially exposed to russia for ukraine to ever be a normal state witho

. >> our cover story is by the historian robert kaplan and puts this news it context.n order to understand what is happening in ukraine and in other hot spots on the globe these days, forget the world is flat and forget the free technological idea of democratic ideals. this is russian feeling a claim to this territory and warm water port and is on putin's mind. whatever we think how westernized we can make ukraine it's always going to be in the east and need a stable relationship with russia. >> in putin's mind, bobby ghosh, is what i'm worried about. this is on the cover of "time." i'm worried about that that. should i be? >> you should be. he thinks of himself -- a lot of suggestions does he have a cold war mentality? it suggests he is thinking about russian empire and going back to the czars and reclaiming crimea and message to his own people we are claiming what is rightfully ours and what his popularity has gone up in russia. russia accepts this. >> david you take it and take us into putin's mind. does he know what his end game is at this point? my father had some

urge and thinking about the next step in terms of how to improve the proposed language, bob kaplan and robert porter, two harvard professors are doing some really interesting work on patient focused accounting and cost tracking and they are finding it is reducing cost and improving cycle times. there may be some lessons for the federal government and what they are doing there. before we take the next step and add a new set of reporting requirements, i would think about what are we trying to accomplish with those reporting requirements. one other thing that's worth considering is how the specifics -- how the specifics of the law should work are the front-line workers. whether we are talking about inspectors or policeman, if you actually look at what happens when these reporting requirements trickle down, sometimes you turn that caseworker into a data clerk. instead of inking about how do you return aided to the data suppliers with value added through analysis that helps make better decisions about what kind of treatment or action they ought to be taking with a person they are trying to help or

robert menendez. [applause] >> [speaking spanish] >> thank you very much, and i might continue -- for those of you who are terrified i might continue in spanish, let me a thanke kaplan me lonnie kaplan. -- thankonored to bank those i have stood shoulder by at ourr with sometimes own political peril. we have always stood together when it comes to the security of the state of israel, and it's one of the hallmarks of this organization. i am especially honored this the stage withe prime minister netanyahu, a powerful voice for a strong, secure, and democratic israel. he is the personification of a sentiment john kennedy once expressed when he said, "israel order toreated in disappear. israel will endure and flourish. it is the child of hope in the home of the brave. it carries the shield of democracy and honors the sword of freedom. like israel, benjamin netanyahu is not created to disappear, and i know with the shield of democracy in one hand and the sword of freedom in another, he will inform and inspire us as he always has. what other reflections? i am proud to appear before aipac as the manifestation of government istory all about, citizens petitioning their governm

robert menendez. [applause] ♪ >> [speaking spanish] >> thank you very much. i would like to continue the next few minutes in spanish. let me thank my dear friend lonny kaplanth whom i have stood shoulder to shoulder for so long. [garbled audio] >> we are having technical issues with our coverage of the aipac conference in washington. we are working to fix the problem and hope to return to live coverage in just a moment. this is c-span2. [silence] >> once again we are having technical issues with our coverage of the aipac conference this morning in washington d.c.. we are working to fix the problem and hope to return to live coverage in a moment. while we wait to get that result, remarks from secretary of state john kerry. he spoke yesterday. actually we will bring you remarks from arizona senator john mccain who spoke yesterday at the aipac conference and he talked about the situation in ukraine. ♪ >> thank you very much for that warm welcome, thank you for those kind words, thank you for not mentioning that i lost running for president of the united states. i thank you. after i lost i slept like a baby. the two hours, wake up and cry, sleet two hours -- [