tom: how has this changed and adapted robert kaplan's world? alan ruskin when you look at altra expansionary policy, what does that mean for business in america when there is money that is free? robert: the good news is the cycle is very well-balanced. we can have trend rates for a projected period of time, severe is sustainability in this recovery, and that helps for planning and businesses and robert's world. tom: rubber come in your world money has been free. does i give you a degree of confidence? robert: just because the fed is starting this not mean this is going to be done very aggressively. i think they just need to get started. there still remains -- there is an enormous deleveraging going on the western world, and he said -- which is creating a headwear and for economic growth. the fed is very aware of that, so you know they start, i think was stanley fischer said will be very accommodating policy even know they started raising rates. olivia: alan janet yellen has officially lost her patients. does the strength -- her pati ence. does