joining us now is dallas fed president and fed voting member robert kaplan.resident kaplan. >> thanks, sara. >> we had a big growth spurt in the economy and now appear to be slowing again. how slow do you expect the company to come down now with this virus surge >> we have been growing, as you point out, since april, that growth has been moderating and we could get to the point, depending on how significant this resurgence gets, that growth would actually stall out either by the end of this year or into the first quarter. the positive news is over the horizon with a vaccine we expect very strong growth next year. i think the next three to six months is going to be challenging. and it appears to us that growth is decelerating and that this resurgence keeps heading the wrong way, which it is, that slowing and deceleration could get worse. >> does that mean that the federal reserve should step up and do more in terms of stimulus >> i don't know about that economic conditions, financial conditions are very accommodative. the one area is if you're a small business