under those regulations, we've seen robert muller, jack smith, robert hurr, david weiss, as kara noted, who has prosecuting hunter biden right now. and the challenges will regulations, the legal challenge is regulations are enough there has to be a specific law, but as karen said, every judge to consider this so far, except for judge cannon has said no, it's okay. the regulations are justified. they are supported by the general powers of the attorney general. so this is a heavy longshot argument that trump is making. he made it successfully to judge cannon i think she's going to get reversed. i think that classified documents case is going to get reinstated because of this. and as judge chutkan notes, the heavyweight of the legal authority is against trump on this, legally speaking, the independent counsel and the special counsel, they're basically the same thing. the difference is the independent counsel had a very specific law that said there is this job called the independent counsel. congress has not passed a law, but the regulations now do that. >> yes, judge. chutkan says that th