and for years-- i mean, i'm going back to probably robert kardashian days.e used to say, "you guys, have a tv show. this is all so-- you know, you're so funny and you know everybody, and nobody would believe what goes on around here." a friend of mine, deena katz, was over at the house having dinner and she said, "you know, ryan seacrest is looking for a producing partner and a show to do. i'd like for you to go talk to him." and i said, "great!" so, i had a meeting with ryan, and he loved the idea and took it to e!. and they loved it, and i think 30 days later we were filming. so, it was really a whirlwind. i'm kris jenner. because i'm the mom! i'm the mom and kim's manager. okay, kim, it's your world. i just live in it. say what you want, but i know what's best for my kids. where did you learn the ropes of negotiation? because that is a skill that eludes lawyers, and even, you know, people in business day to day. how did you develop that? i think i had the opportunity to grow up and be very close to and have intimate access to people like terry semel, and