corporal, you served with general john kelly's son, robert kelly, who was killed in afghanistan. know this is a very personal thing for you. you were in his platoon and you received your purple heart from general kelly. when you see this report from the "atlantic" about how the president has talked about war dead and wounded, what's your reaction? >> i think that whenever you talk about bella wood that i've been to bell wood to the cemetery he's talking about because i served with marines, which is part of a regimen that fought there. and so, when you're wounded in combat, the opportunity is afforded to you to go visit france, because they still celebrate us every year and our unit's sacrifice every year. i actually have a piece of bella wood i brought back with me because it's so important for marine corps history that we understand i understand that kelly's son was wounded and passed away in combat with fifth and sixth marine regiment, who also wore that in bella wood. whenever you look at the report, you understand the person is actually a marine veteran himself. and i think th

secretary and then as his chief of staff kelly son was killed in iraq the president stood at robert kelly's grave and said to john i don't get it what was in it for them during a press conference on friday accused john calley of being one of the sources of the story i see anonymous but it could have been a guy like a john kelly. because he was because it's going to say he was a very you look at some of his news conference is what happened to him he got eaten alive he was unable to handle the pressure of this trough words are being met with skepticism because of his house comments such as this one about john mccain is that a war hero or hero he is a war of fire appears he's a war hero because he was captured joe biden's campaign quickly made this an issue really seeing this ad and the former vice president call the allegations disgusting if true my son volunteered to enjoy the united states military as the attorney general went to iraq 3 year won the bronze star and other commendations he wasn't a sucker servicemen and women he served with particularly those did not come home we're not loser

secretary and then as his chief of staff kelly son was killed in iraq the president stood at robert kelly's grave and said to john i don't get it what was in it for them during his press conference on friday accused john calley of being one of the sources of the story i see anonymous but it could have been a guy like a john kelly because he was because it's good to say he was a very look at some of his news conference is what happened to him he got eaten alive he was unable to handle. the pressure of this joe biden's campaign quickly made this an issue really seeing this ad and the former vice president call the allegations disgusting if true my son volunteered to join the united states military as the attorney general who went to iraq for year won the bronze star and other commendations he wasn't a sucker. reaction on social media scathing this from a retired general when he met with the chairman of the joint chiefs general dunford his comment was that's a smart guy why is he in the military and from a veterans organization opposed to trial my message to donald trump is that you have no ri

john kelly's son robert is buried in section 60. a first lieutenant in the marine corps, kelly was killed in 2010 in afghanistan. he was 29 years old, and president trump was meant on this visit to join john kelly in paying respects at his son's grave and to comfort the families of other fallen service members. but according to sources with knowledge of the visit, trump, while standing by robert kelly's grave, turned directly to kelly's father and said, quote, i don't get it. what was in it for them? john kelly, who declined to comment for this story, initially believed, people close to him said, that trump was making a ham-handed reference to the selflessness of america's all volunteer force. but later he came to realize that trump simply does not understand non-transactional life choices. one of kelly's friends, a retired four-star general, tells goldberg, quote, he can't fathom the idea of doing something for other than himself. he just thinks anyone who does anything when there's no direct personal gain is a sucker. there's no mo

robert >> kelly, it is a question being asked on wall street, the art world and in debt markets, whyerelman selling the famous takeover artist has seen his net worth fall by half, $12 billion to $6 billion in just 3 years he's selling off companies or stakes if at least half of his portfolio. including a.m. general, the maker of humvees, scientific games, and now he's quietly shopping one of his private jets, his yacht and parts of his massive art collection that is valued at well over $1 billion. sothe sotheby's just auctioned off one of his perelman, shares of revlon, that is by far his biggest holding. they've fallen over 70% just this year with over $3 billion in debt. perelman is saying this is all a planned downsizing in response to covid, he said, "i've been very public about my intention to reduce leverage, streamline operations, sell some assets and convert those assets to cash in order to steek neeek new investt opportunities. kelly, he says he's raising cash to buy looks like he's selling. we'll find out in the coming months just how much he still has to spell back to you.

reading from goldberg's account, trump while standing by robert kelly's grave turned directly to his father and said i don't get it. what was in it for them? goldberg also reported siting three sources that when senator john mccain died, he said quote, we're not going to support that loser's funeral. the president last night tweeted that he never called the late senator a loser. really? keeping them honest, watch the tape. >> i supported him. he lost. he let us down. he lost. so i never liked him as much after that because i don't like losers but frank, frank, let me get to it. he hit me -- he's not a war hero. >> he's a war hero. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured, okay? >> it was five years in a vietnamese prison and let others be released before him but he was offered the chance. that's john mccain. not a war hero, a willoser. again, he denied it last night. today he did not. >> i say what i say and i never got along with john mccain. i disagreed with john mccain. you know that better than anybody frankly. i wasn't a fan. >> as for john

joining me is republican strategist warren and democratic strategist robert. kelly jane, let me start with you. i look at the data every day. i cut through it, carve it up, look at all aspects of it. most of it has been super v. manufacturing, home building, households. the chart looks like a super v. >> charles, it's really interesting to see. between february and april, 22 million jobs were lost in america. it's unprecedented. we haven't seen this since the great recession. we've only gotten just about half of them back but still 11 million jobs since april. that's quite something. again, we are seeing a lot of gains made by lots of various people. before the pandemic, african-americans, hispanics, women working. record low on employment numbers. of course it's back up. we like to get affect where it was. it's going to take some work. i do think president trump has a great record on jobs until the pandemic. much of that wasn't his fault of course. new york city, as you know, restaurants can't have indoor dining and that's not president trump's decision. it's killi

robert frank is here with their net worths now robert >> kelly, even more losses for those top four todayhose top four losing over $35 billion yesterday and today, so they have lost more in a day and a half than the entire net worth of nike, dell or phil knight jeff bezos is still one of the richest people in the world at around $190 billion. elon musk was 19 billion down for the week it looks like he could maybe gain or lose another billion or two today. we'll see where that stock winds up but what a roller coaster he had this week. on monday efrs worth 115 billion, passing mark zuckerberg to become the third richest person in the world. now musk is down to about fourth place, zuckerberg down 8 billion yesterday. the biggest percentage loser is dan gilbert. that stock was down yesterday and today. he is down about 20% or 9 billion for the week, kelly. crazy numbers on the way up and on the way down. >> it shows just how much of their wealth is tied up in the stock performance. rocket mortgage, you would think, would be one of the best names in this kind of pandemic housing boom we're see

it's because the liberals that "the >> who specifically said at robert kelly's grave "i don't get it?" was it the president? >> next, "the contenders," about the men who ran for the presidency and lost, but changed political history. tonight, alabama governor and pro-segregationist george wallace. after that, president trump's news conference from this afternoon, where he answered questions on the economy, run a virus, and the report on the atlantic that he made disparaging remarks about u.s. troops. and joe biden's speech on the economy, where he also took questions on the atlantic article. live monday, labor day, on c-span's "washington journal," a campaign 2020 discretion on six battleground states, north carolina, florida, ohio, wisconsin, pennsylvania, and arizona. president trump and joe biden are making efforts to win voters. we talk about the political makeup and dynamic of each state, with laura leslie in a,th carolina, mark sue food gilbert,llegrin, greg pittsburgh post-gazette political reporter julian rao's, and arizona capital times political reporter, dylan rosenblatt. w

jeffrey goldberg reports, according to sources, trump while standing by robert kelly's brave turned directly to his father and said, i don't get it. what was in it for them? kelly, who declined to comment for this story initially believed that trump was making a ham handed reference to the selflessne selflessness. but he later came to realize trump does not understand nontransactional life choices. he can't fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself. he just thinks that anyone who does anything when there is no direct personal gain to be had is a sucker. there is no money in serving the nation, kelly's friend went on to say. trump can't imagine anyone else's pain. that's why he would say this to the father of a fallen marine on memorial day. >> donald trump sees military parades the way dictators do. so even though he thinks the military is for losers and suckers, for years now, donald trump has been trying to mount a military parade in washington, not to honor the troops and their sacrifice, but to honor their commander in chief. jeffrey goldberg ends his report with

trump join john kelly at the grave site of the former chief of staff son robert kelly who died serving in afghanistan. sources say trump turn to kelly and asked i don't get it what was in it for them. john kelly declined to comment on the story it is an honor to serve the american people and following the death of arizona senator john mccain. the article also claims trump reportedly became angry that flags were lowered to half-staff at the white house and told aides we're not going to support that losers funeral trump today denying it on twitter writing quote i never call john a loser but while campaigning for president in 2015. he did, but you know the loss. >>so i never liked him as much after that because i don't like >>he's a war years he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured ok, i mean the president's review the journalist behind the story is defending his reporting. >>i stand by my multiple sources telling me this is what happened. so i stand by it. >>and trump's democratic opponent, joe biden whose late son beau served in the military saying i

cemetery, or that he stood next to his former chief of staff, john kelly, at the grave of his son, robert kellydied in afghanistan, and said, i don't get it. what was in it for them? well, you're right to be outraged, but you haven't within paying attention. because this is a guy who has a long history of insulting military heros, from john mccain to george h.w. bush to admiral mccraven to the gold star khan family. this is a guy who dodged the draft during vietnam, who calls his general slang for female genitalia for standing by our allies while he negotiates with the taliban, abandoned the kurds in syria and puts 14,000 new troops in the middle east. team trump will deny it all, just like they desperately tried to denied trump's comments caught on tape. but don't believe it for a second. because all the evidence suggests that donald trump doesn't understand the spirit of sacrifice, because it's never been about public service. it's always been about himself. and that's your reality check. >> our thanks to john avlon. >>> one of the nation's top scientists calls these images of president trump

disgusting and damn a ball now a parent who is directly mentioned in these reports is gen john kelly his son robert was killed in action in afghanistan and according to these reports by the atlantic in 2017 when kelly was working for trump the 2 men visited robert's grave in that moment the president allegedly asked what's in it for them and while we all may want to hear from general kelly he has not confirmed nor denied these claims but trump attacked him on friday anyway now if these allegations are true it definitely shows a lack of empathy critics have highlighted in the past that trump is a transactional figure he doesn't seem to grasp why people act in the ways that they do if it's not beneficial to them and he doesn't seem to understand sentiments like duty and honor. just under 2 months now into the presidential election how it could be used to fix trump's standing among the military voters gera let's go back 4 years ago around this time trump had a commanding 20 point lead over hillary clinton among some military voters a recent poll showed the biden now has a 4 percent lead over the presi

general kelly was with you at robert kelly's gravesite, with you in france.t you have him release a statement and have him say what he saw and thought and what he heard. of course the president is not going to do that because the president knows the absolute truth of what's going on. he knows the truth of what he said. he's talked to all of us in that way. if you really think he had bone spurs during the vietnam war, then you're part of the cult basically. of course he didn't have those. so he'll never bring that up with john kelly. i know that, but i'll tell you right now, if he does and that gives general kelly the license to release his statement, i think it's a knockout punch, frankly. but there will be other knockout punches between here and the election, chuck. people need to know what he's really like, and listen, i mean, at the end of the day this isn't just about the battle of ideas. this is a systemic threat to the institutions of our democracy and we've got to speak up about it. >> what would you say to folks who say, you know what? i don't know if

secretary and then as his chief of staff kelly son was killed in iraq the president stood at robert kelly's grave and said to john i don't get it what was in it for them during his press conference on friday accused john calley of being one of the sources of the story i see anonymous but it could have been a guy like a john kelly because he was because it's going to say he was a very you know look at some of his news conference is what happened to him he got eaten alive he was unable to handle the pressure of this trough words are being met with skepticism because of his house comments such as this one about john mccain he's not a war hero or hero he is a war of fire appears he's a war hero because he was captured joe biden's campaign quickly made this an issue really saying this ad and the former vice president call the allegations disgusting if true my son volunteered enjoy the united states military as the attorney general who went to a rack for year one the bronze star and other commendations he wasn't a sucker and servicemen and women he served with particularly those did not come home

specificity of the details here, including what he said when he was beside john kelly's son, robert kelly's graveside in 2017 where he said, i don't get it. what was in it for them? there are a lot of followup questions for this president that we'll try to ask later today at 5:00. the pushback from the white house was swift last night as it was described to me by those individuals who work here now but didn't work here then, even though they dispute it. they weren't there to personally have experience with it. some were. they say they were offended by these words. clearly it's the service members and veterans whose family have been most offended by what the president said back then as a candidate in 2015, and by the reporting we've heard, not just from the individuals w, but als from those who served, jim mattis, john kelly and others, who previously served under this president. >> peter, with us also are barry mccaffrey and still bill cohen, former defense secretary. general mccaffrey, one thing we do know is jeffrey goldberg has covered the military and national security and diplomacy for

trump join john kelly at the grave site of the former chief of staff son robert kelly who died servingay trump turn to kelly and asked i don't get it what was in it for them. john kelly declined to comment on the story it is an honor serve the american people and following the death of arizona senator john mccain. the article also claims trump reportedly became angry that flags were lowered to half-staff at the white house and told aides we're not going to support that losers funeral trump today denying it on twitter writing quote i never call john a loser but while campaigning for president in 2015. he did, but you know the loss. >>so i never liked him as much after that because i don't like >>he's a war years he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured ok, i mean the president's review the journalist behind the story is defending his reporting. >>i stand by my multiple sources telling me this is what happened. so i stand by it. >>and trump's democratic opponent, joe biden whose late son beau served in the military saying if what is landed just truce d

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disgusting and damn a ball now a parent who is directly mentioned in these reports is gen john kelly his son robert was killed in action in afghanistan and according to these reports by the atlantic in 2017 when kelly was working for trump the 2 men visited robert's grave in that moment the president allegedly asked what's in it for them and while we all may want to hear from general kelly he has not confirmed nor denied these claims but trump attacked him on friday anyway now if these allegations are true it definitely shows a lack of empathy critics have highlighted in the past that trump is a transactional figure he doesn't seem to grasp why people act in the way that they do if it's not beneficial to them and he doesn't seem to understand sentiments like duty and honor. just under 2 months now into the presidential election how it could be used to fix trump's standing among the military voters. go back 4 years ago around this time trump had a commanding 20 point lead over hillary clinton among some military voters a recent poll showed that biden now has a 4 percent lead over the president so th

according to sources with knowledge of this visit, trump while standing by robert kelly's grave, turnedis father and said, i don't get it. what was in it for them? kelly who declined to comment for this story initially believed people close to him said that trump was making a ham-handed reference to the selflessness of america's all-volunteer force but later came to realize that trump simply does not understand nontransactional life choices. >> men and women go to war and fight not because of the enemy in front of them but because they love the country that they've left behind them. john kelly understands that, and his son understood that. and his son paid the ultimate sacrifice. john kelly bears that burden every single day. i know john kelly and, nicolle, i'm sure you do as well. one of the great conundrums is how he came to a point of serving this president, despite the flaws in the president's own patriotism. how he personally reconciled his journey, his american journey, john kelly's american journey, with serving this president, and then his decisions to remain silent when news li

robert frank has more on what that report showed robert >> kelly, well it shows large income offset by business losses that's the picture emergic from the "new york times" report studying the 20 years of tax returns now. now he earned over $600 million in income since 2005 the vast majority of that over $420 million came from the apprentice and related marketing and $176 million from the two office buildings one in new york and the other in san francisco and about $20 million a year from the office and retail space of trump tower now, he took all of that cash and earnings and went on a buying binge in the mid 2000s buying golf courses and the washington hotel, which have all lost hundreds of millions of dollars when it comes to the tax returns. now, his club losing 1$162 million through 2018 and the washington hotel losing $56 million. mar-a-lago is the one stand out appearing to benefit from the president's election initiation fees soaring to $6 million from only $660,000 in 2016 the president taking out $26 million in income from that club before 2018. that is three times the earlier

someone would die for their country, it was -- and someone said she heard at arlington in front of robert kelly'sin a good mood, he was furious at macron, why he had to do two cemetery, why do i have to do two. he was planning one on the first day and one on the second day. if the president could have driven to the cemetery in what was described as a drizzle, the rain was a drizzle, this former official said the president drives a lot. the other world leaders drove to the cemeteries, he just didn't want to go. separately, during a white house planning session after seeing bastille day parade in france, president trump did not want to include in the parade according to the source in the meetings, quote, wounded guys. that's not a good look. americans don't like that. according to this source, who was present, again at those meetingsments my source also said the president just hated john mccain. he always asked why do you see him as a hero? multiple sources confirm the president did not want the flags lowered after mccain died, but others in the white house ordered them at half staff. there was a s

disgusting and damn a ball now a parent who is directly mentioned in these reports is gen john kelly his son robert was killed in action in afghanistan and according to these reports by the atlantic in 2017 when kelly was working for trump the 2 men visited robert's grave in that moment the president allegedly asked what's in it for them and while we all may want to hear from general kelly he has not confirmed nor denied these claims but trump attacked him on friday anyway now if these allegations are true it definitely shows a lack of empathy critics have highlighted in the past that trump is a transactional figure he doesn't seem to grasp why people act in the ways that they do if it's not beneficial to them and he doesn't seem to understand sentiments like duty and honor ok just under 2 months now until the presidential election how it could be used to fix trump's standing among the military voters gera let's go back 4 years ago around this time trump had a commanding 20 point lead over hillary clinton among some military voters a recent poll showed that biden now has a 4 percent lead over the p

service members but according to sources with knowledge of this visit, trump while standing by robert kelly's grave turned directly to his father and said, i don't get it, what was in it for them? kelly, who declined to comment for the story initially believed people close to him said that trump was making a ham handed reference to the all volunteer american source. but he later came to realize that trump doesn't understand nontransactional life choices. in another effort of what jeffrey calls trump's material focused world view, he writes, the president believes that nothing is worth doing without the promise of monetary payback and talented people who don't pursue riches are losers. according to eyewitnesses after a white house briefing given by the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, trump turned to aides and said that guy is smart, why did he join the military? >> jeffrey, this gets to that underlying question, yes, people reading these quotes will be shocked, even though they -- many believe that they had already seen the low point of donald trump's mind set of his attitude towards am

john kelly's son, robert, was killed in afghanistan. the president did not remind anyone of kelly's family sacrifice. he simply went to attack. >> i know john kelly. he was with me and did not do a good job and had no temperament, he was exhausted. this man was totally exhausted. he was not able to function in the last number of months. he was not able to function. he was sort of a tough guy. by the time he got eaten up in this world is a different world than he was used to. he was unable to function and i told him john, you are going of to go, please give me a letter of resignation. we did that and now he goes out and bad mouthing. there are people who are jealous and upset they're not here anymore. >> can you believe that? >> why not just say you know kelly's family, the gold star family, yi don't want to speculate about what he may or may not said. what kind of a person does that? pete, this president has no idea if john kelly was even a source. he certainly does not know what it is like to lose a child in a war. maybe he's attacking

2017, this is where they visited section 60, this is the section of arlington where general kelly's son robert. and so sources told the atlantic that the president said to kelly, as they were there standing over his son's grave, the quote from the president was, i don't get it, what was in it for them? general kelly didn't comment for the article. my question to you, david, did he ever mention this incident to you or did he ever speak about the president's comments on the military? >> he didn't around me. again, i don't know if he's spoken to others. i was serving as secretary kelly at that point on memorial day 2017 as his spokesperson at the department of homeland security. but i wasn't with him that day at arlington national cemetery so i don't have direct knowledge of that exchange. but, again, it is not inconsistent from what we've heard the president say and do in the past. >> has he ever spoken to you, just in general, about the president's views on our nation's military? >> no, he hasn't. general kelly or secretary kelly has not. >> jeffrey goldberg was on cnn this morning talking abou

there, standing over first lieutenant robert kelly's grave, the president of the united states turned to his father and said i don't get it. what was in it for them? what was in it for them? this question captures the very essence of what's so deeply wrong with this president. in other words, why would any american give their life in service to our country? why would anyone do anything if not for fame or fortune? you see, donald trump cannot fathom the idea of serving a cause greater than yourself because donald trump only serves himself. sphe cannot understand why-in would clooz to live a life of service, why anyone would risk it all to carry our flag on the battlefield. why would anyone put their own life on the line to defend our country, our people, and all that we as americans stand for? since these despicable comments came to light, the white house has bent over backwards to deny them, but once again, too many of our republican colleagues have stood silent, instead of forcefully and unequivocally condemning the president's words, they would rather cower to the quality of donald

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robert, what's going on? >> kelly looking for a way to go through with this deal with tiffany for months they said they received a letter on september 1st from the french foreign ministry saying it should hold off on this deal until january, blaming the threats of u.s. tariffs on french goods from the trump administration now, since that date is past the deadline in the original deal contract, lvmh saying it is, quote, no longer able to complete the transaction now, tiffany responding instantly with a lawsuit in delaware saying, lvmh is trying to back out of its contractual obligations and that lvmh has unclean hands. those are fighting words where does this all leave the crown jewel of u.s. luxury brands the pandemic has absolutely crushed the jewelry business it is the worst performing sector in all of global luxuries since it's so depend on brick and mortar stores and people just aren't wearing as much jewelry as they used to. tiffany sales falling 45% in the second quarter, lvmh saying tiffany has been a loss comp

president say something similar at arlington national cemetery standing in front of general john kelly's son, robert, grave. regarding the trip to the french cemetery marking the end of world war i, cording to my source, the president was not any good mood that day. he questioned why he had to go to two cemeteries, why do i have to go to two? when asked if the president could have driven to the aisne-marne cemetery, the former official said the president drives a lot, the other world leaders drove to the cemetery come he just didn't want to go. during a white house planning session last july, the last jul, after seeing the bastille day parade in france, president trump did not want to include in the parade "wounded guys, that's not a good look, americans don't like that," according to the source who was present. my source also said the president just hated john mccain. he always asked, why do you see him as a hero? two sources confirm the president did not want the flag lowered after mccain died, but others in the white house ordered them at half-staff. there was a standoff with the pentagon, and th

2017, homeland security secretary john kelly accompanied him on a visit to arlington national cemetery where john's son is buried. while standing next to robert's grave, trump turned on kelly and said of members of the military who go to war, quote, i don't get it. what was in it for them? trump has now responded exactly the way you'd think. >> i know john kelly. he was with me. didn't do a good job. had no temperament and ultimately he was petered out, he was exhausted. he was totally exhausted. he wasn't able to function in the last number of months. he was not able to function. he was sort of a tough guy. by the time he got eaten up in this world, it's a different world than he was used to, he was unable to function. he got even the alive. he was unable to handle the pressure of this job. >> wow. all right. while horrendous, those comments right there and his reported comments about those that serve really are par for the course for trump who has publicly insulted john mccain, publicly attacked gold star families. but what trump reportedly sid in the atlantic article was so outlandish and so narcissistic, so cartoonish, that plenty of people

join john kelly and paying respects at his son's grave and comfort the family about their fallen service members. according to sources with knowledge of the visit, trump while standing by robert kell kelley's grave and turned to kelly's father and said "i don't get it, what was in it for them"? john kelly initially believe that trump was making a reference to the selflessness of america's voluntary source. later he realized that trump does not understand non-transactional life choices. he can't fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself. he just thinks anyone who does anything when there is no direct personal gain is a sucker. there is no money in serving the nation. kelly's friend went on the say, trump can't imagine anyone else's pain that's why he would say this to a father of a fallen marine in the cemetery where he's buried. goldberg says i have asked numerous officers for their analysis of trump's seeming contempt for military service. in other explanation, the president believers nothis noth worth doing without the monetary pay back. according to eye witnesses after one white house briefing given by chairman of chief of staff, general dunford, tr

kelly's son, by the way, robert was killed in afghanistan. when that silence was pointed out this evening by a reporter the president didn't remind anyone of the kelly's family sacrifice. he simply went into attack mode. >> i know john kelly. he was with me. didn't do a good job, had no temperament and ultimately he was petered out, he was exhausted. this man was totally exhausted. he wasn't even able to function in the last number of months. he was not able to function. he was sort of a tough guy. by the time he got eaten up in this world, it is a different world than he was used to, he was unable to function, and i told him, john, you are going to have to go, please give me a letter of resignation. we did that, and now he goes out and bad mouths. now, there are people that are jealous, there are people that are upset they're not here anymore. >> can you believe that? i mean why not just say, you know, the kelly family, the gold star family, son made the ultimate sacrifice, i don't want to speculate about what he may or may not have said. he

robert doesn't want the plaid, right? >> i mean, i'm learning so much. >> kelly, i know that john and r -- jon and robert are both very fashionablebut i am the pr personal shopper for my husband, and i don't worry about amazon putting me out of business for my husband this is why stitch fix has such an advantage it doesn't have the sense of being part of this behemoth. people love the surprise of opening up their box and seeing what's in there, and amazon wants to give them the choice before they ship them the box. >> true, that's true i think i would be more on the serendipitous part, but i guess at that point you're stuck with it >>> finally, before we go, guys, i just wanted to mention -- do we need a head scratcher story i get it, but -- here's what's going on microsoft is introducing new personal well-being experiences in the first half of next year for people who are working from home the updates include a virtual commute, so they're trying to give you the commute you've been missing. why? they say well, then you can close out tasks and reflect on the day, enjoy a 10-minute guided meditation process produced by the app head

the president was asked about this during a briefing and john kelly was a four-star marine general and had a son, robert, who died in iraq and was visi d visited. john kelly in the report and visiting the grave with the president of his son. why would they volunteer to serve is the comment the president made. the president denies the story and now this story is taking on another dimension. will someone come forward and put their name to the account? president trump was critical about his former chief of staff. here is what he had to say. >> i know john kelly. he was with me. he didn't do a good job. no temperament. he was petered out. he was exhausted. this man was totally exhausted. he wasn't able to function. we have many witnesses. it is a total -- it's a total -- just a continuation of the witch hunt so it can hopefully affect the election. >> reporter: so you have the president criticizing kelly and criticizing kelly's performance. the president is beicritical ofm at time the president is saying disparaging things about the service members. the president not taking the opportunity there to at least

the president say something similar at arlington national cemetery standing in front of john kelly's son, robert'sve. marking the end of world war i, according to my source who was there at the time, the president was not in a good mood, he is furious at french president and why he had to go to two cemeteries, why do i have to do to? when asked if the president could have driven to the cemetery amidst the drizzle, was described as a drizzle, not a downpour, the president drives a lot. the other world leaders drove to the cemeteries, he just didn't want to go. separately, during a planning session after seeing the parade in france, president trump did not want to include in the parade, according to my source, wounded guys. that's not a good look. americans don't like that. this was according to a source in the planning meetings. my source also said the president just cheated john mccain, that's his quote. he always ask, why do you see him as a hero? multiple sources confirm the president did not want the flags lowered after mccain died but others in the white house ordered them at half staff. there

. >> does kelly need to come forward and say something one way or another, robert? think what the atlantic should have done, is got some of these people to go on record and say that they heard this, that they heard the president say its prey to a course they didn't, so again, i stand by my assertion that this is completely done for the election. it has no validity to it whatsoever. >> speaking of the election, the issue is framed this way. >> if you're a republican, and you've always voted republican, and it's hard for you to join the many republicans who are walking away from this president. think about this, years later we will look back on this moment and you could either be a john mccain republican or a donald trump republican, but you have to choose. think about which you'd rather be. >> how do you respond? >> i mean, i think he's just trying to make a place for him to have a voice, and that's why he's trying to put something out there. you know, i just think that i don't see the difference between a mccain president or a mccain republican, and a president trum

schmidt goes on to explain that had robert mueller's team demanded a longer and more detailed interview with john kelly, they might have gotten around to that story. but in their relatively short interview of him they didn't get to that, which might have helped him, which would have helped with whether or not firing comey was an obstruction of justice. i should tell you on the john kelly front, there is a moment in which john kelly describes something about trump as the equivalent of french kissing a chainsaw? and i couldn't explain all that part of it to you, but you're going to have to read the book for that one. michael schmidt also reports in this new book the backstory on how white house officials tried to stop jared kushner and the president's daughter ivanka from getting top-level security clearances because of some warning that turned up in the investigation into whether or not they should qualify for that kind of clearance. some sort of highly compartmented information that john kelly was briefed on, which led to a strong recommendation that jared kushner not receive a top-level clearance. nev

. >> does kelly need to come forward and say something one way or another, robert? should have done, is got some of these people to go on record and say that they heard this, that they heard the president say its prey to a course they didn't, so again, i stand by my assertion that this is completely done for the election. it has no validity to it whatsoever. >> speaking of the election, the issue is framed this way. >> if you're a republican, and you've always voted republican, and it's hard for you to join the many republicans who are walking away from this president. think about this, years later we will look back on this moment and you could either be a john mccain republican or a donald trump republican, but you have to choose. think about which you'd rather be. >> how do you respond? >> i mean, i think he's just trying to make a place for him to have a voice, and that's why he's trying to put something out there. you know, i just think that i don't see the difference between a mccain president or a mccain republican, and a president trump republican other than