i kept seeing references to a legislative aid of his named robert kimbal. my default assumption was that the people were dead because some of them were in their 40s then so i just did a google search of robert kimbal and john lindsey. was that this was the robert kimbal better known to me as the leading historian and the executor of the complete lyrics of everyone who is very much alive and i called them and wed the most wonderful visit. he started ou as a young civil rights loyal and wound up being this dean of musical theaters scholars. >> that's interesting. >> all because of the internet and you can track people down. >> thank you. another question. what was barry goldwaters role in opposing the bill. how did this opposition different from southern democrats. >> his opposition was really routed in the same kind of li libertarian stay out of my business philosophy which later led him to saying he had no objection to gays serving in the military. he was one of only six republicans in the senate to oppose the bill. he did so on civil liberties grounds sayi

i kept seeing references to a legislative aid of his named robert kimbal. my default assumption was that the people were dead because some of them were in their 40s then so i just did a google search of robert kimbal and john lindsey. was that this was the robert kimbal better known to me as the leading historian and the executor of the complete lyrics of everyone who is very much alive and i called them and wed the most wonderful visit. he started ou as a young civil rights loyal and wound up being this dean of musical theaters scholars. >> that's interesting. >> all because of the internet and you can track people down. >> thank you. another question. what was barry goldwaters role in opposing the bill. how did this opposition different from southern democrats. >> his opposition was really routed in the same kind of li libertarian stay out of my business philosophy which later led him to saying he had no objection to gays serving in the military. he was one of only six republicans in the senate to oppose the bill. he did so on civil liberties grounds sayi

i just did a google search of robert kimball, and what came up, this was the robert kimball better known to me as the complete lyrics of cole porter, ira gershwin. i called him and we had a wonderful visit. he wound up being this dean of theater musical scholars. who knew. all because of the internet. all because of the fact that you can find people. >> another question. what is barry goldwater's role in opposing the bill and how does this opposition differ at all from southern democrats? >> his was kind of a libertarian, stay out of my bedroom philosophy. he said he had no objection to gays serving in the military, because it didn't matter if you could shoot straight. he was one of six opponents in the senate because he did so on civil liberties grounds saying the interference of private property that the public accommodations section could involve would include snooping and big brothering and ratting people out. i think he was sincere in that, i don't think he was a racist. but as the final speeches were being made, the "new york times" recorded that dirkson looked at barry goldwater i