grant, you know, invoke the agreement they had to protect robert e. lee. robert e. lee to his death remain retrograde on the issue. the this is a pretty penetrating and compelling reassessment of what the meaning of appomattox was interpreted and the north really dead in terms of race in america. this is a reappraisal during the reign of henry viii. those who are fans of st. thomas more under henry viii and beheaded because he would not agree who also lost her head. the instrument of both featuring the voice and arguing or the separation of the church in england and the church in rome and ultimately thomas moore's demise as well. ultimately ironically thomas, lost his head as well. edison may be more sympathetic for trail of a skilled statement, a skilled manager who managed the kingdom of england for henry viii but is also responsible for the destruction of the monasteries, the breakup of holdings in property and ultimately severance of the relationship tween england and the church of rome. some of the real depredation under henry viii. it's a great read and coincid

. >> was john randolph's daughter married to robert lee? >> no, there was -- robert e. lee was married to -- like george washington's granddaughter or great granddaughter or something like that. but randolph was somehow -- he was akin to everyone. he was a relation. okay. [applause] >> thank you so much. >> thank you for joining us everyone, have a wonderful afternoon. the john locke foundation. here is our prime time lineup. at 8:15 congressmen talks about recent book, guardian of the republic. followed at 10:00 with charles thoughts on how to reduce the power of the federal government through the use of technology and at 11:00 a look at japan as tomorrow marks the anniversary of the u.s. bombing. >> the corner and joining us right now is one of the actors that's exhibiting and talking about his book. he's the author of gas money. >> it's a little small town in virginia. >> why does it matter to you? >> it provided me with the foundation that i ended up with, it's the place that made me me. all of the people that changed my life, that's where everyone organize -- when i

robert e. lee had been invited after the war and he invoked appomattox and insisted the u.s. invoke the agreement they had to protect property. robert e. lee to his death remained actually very reprobate on the issue of race in the south. in some versions of history -- this is a pretty penetrating and compelling reassessment of how appomattox what the meaning of appomattox was determined by the south and ultimately by the north, really did damage for the next 90 years in terms of race in america. this book thomas cromwell by tracy bormann is reappraisal of a historic figure, during the reign of henry h.. those who are fans of thomas more under henry the eighth was ultimately be headed because he did not agree to the remarriage of henry viii to and bill in. thomas cromwell is the instrument of both featuring the voice arguing for the separation of church of england from the church of rome and ultimately for thomas more's demise as well. ultimately ironically thomas cromwell lost his head as well. it is more sympathetic portrayal of a very skilled statesman very skilled manager

johnston also, in the hierarchy of the confederacy, he outranked robert e. lee. now, in the summer of 1862 robert e. lee is appointed command of the army of northern virginia. i suggest that had johnston not been killed at shiloh, there is a really good chance he would have gotten that appointment. he would have gone east because he wasn't so close to davis, and we never would have heard of robert e. lee. all those people i have met who claim to be a descendent of robert e. lee, and some of them are. i'm sure some of them aren't. they might now claim to be descendents of albert sidney johnston. [laughter] the other part of that equation is that the federal command -- commander at shiloh is ulysses grant. he is losing when johnston is killed. he turns around the next day and wins the battle. had grant lost in that battle, that was the end of his career. likely we would never have heard of ulysses s. grant, 18th president of the united states. that is how history changed with shiloh. also, the first battle in the east that draws all kind of attention, mull -- manass

he says to go to robert e. lee and says, take from this whatever you need. thomas graves writes that he goes to the confederate home of robert e lee on franklin street. he knocks on the door and fitz hugh lee answers the door. he's the nephew of robert e lee a brigadier general, and a classmate of godfrey weitzel. not the same class, but they were contemporaries. graves announces he is here from weitzel to tell lee to take what he needs. fitz hugh lee is touched by this that he has to walk across the room to regain his composure. lee speaks to his nephew, and the nephew comes back to the aid and says, "send general weitzel our love. tell him thank you, but we don't need the money. we would like safe passage for the lee women who need to come back to richmond." weitzel grants safe passage, and the lee women are back in the home within the day. the same day in washington, lincoln decides to go see a play. it has been a tough week for him. it's been a tough four years. as he sits in the booth watching the play, the president is assassinated by john wilkes booth.

he sent a communication to his chain of command, robert e lee, and he said i want to retaliate in kind want to execute seven men because i had seven men executed. that went to robert e lee, and went to the confederate secretary of war, and that went to jefferson davis, and he followed the chain of command, and it was approved for him to retaliate in kind. there were three union soldiers hanged in retaliation for seven of his men. four union soldiers shot and possibly all of them survived. when mosby was told that three or four of them survived, mosby said, that is ok. they will tell everybody what happened. he sent a communication to sheridan and said something to the effect, i wanted this barbarity to end. and it did. >> ignores the fact from what i read what was done at front royal was done at retaliation for what mosby's men habitually did. men cutting off a sheep and being killed. my understanding is what led to the executions in front royal was that mosby's men had a history of executing. >> they didn't have a history. here is what as they did have. they found union soldiers burni

the superintendent was robert e lee. the lee family would host cap -- the top cadets at their home on sunday afternoon and entertain the boys and try to teach them some manners. from time to time, mrs. lee would invite some of the girls from the community to entertain some of the boys. some of the memoirs say how awkward it was between the young cadets and the young girls, but lee took note of the young cadets who were doing well in school and took note of this tall boy, godfreid weitzel. godfrey was one of the top students in his class all four years. this is the grade from his junior year. this is his third year at west point. the number one position was held by cyrus comstock from massachusetts. godfreid weitzel was in third place by the end of their junior year. comstock was 20 when he entered west point. official records say weitzel was 16, but we know he was 15. even though he was five years younger, he was nipping at the heels of cyrus comstock. demeritsad only six for the entire year his junior year, pretty remar

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. >> was john randolph's daughter married to robert lee? >> no, there was -- robert e. lee was married to -- like george washington's granddaughter or great granddaughter or something like that. but randolph was

they played a great role in the robert e lee camp for old confederate soldiers. anet weaver became very involved in the united artists -- united daughters of the confederacy. she was known throughout the south for her efforts with the udc and the robert ely cap. you can see -- the robert e lee camp. you can see with the streamer, a mrs. norman vincent randolph relief fund, obviously given in her name. you see the horse in that slide and that is little sorrel, stonewall jackson's horse, and it was norman vincent randolph who was responsible for reaching out to a taxidermist in new york city to have little sorrel preserved. and he stands in all his grandeur to this day at the virginia military institute, so the two of them together have a wonderful legacy. even after norman vincent randolph's death janet weaver randolph continued her work. she became known as mother richmond and fran what you could consider today a united way type of -- as mother richmond and ran what you would consider today a type of united way, and helped retired veterans and their wives. as live

many of them were taken and beaten because they were not dressed robert lee. others were imprisoned or taken away -- were not dressed properly, and others were imprisoned or taken away. >> i had no life. our l l l l l l l l l l l l l lw one of them, we did not want to pass them. we do not want to be stopped. we did not know what would happen. reporter: the piece here is still not secure -- peace is still not secure, and a return to i us control is still not known.% -- two -- to i.s. control is not known. anchor: needing more time before siding, a central african country has been at war since december 2013, and they are urging the warring actions to reach a deal by today or faith -- the warring factions to reach a deal by today or face an issue. both kiev and russian-backed rebels accuse each other of inflaming a situation. you are watching dw news. and there is a trade deal that includes an ambitious new pipeline between two countries, but there are concerns that it could be vulnerable to oklahoma prom -- two boko haram militants. don't go away. i am sarah kel

many of them were taken and beaten because they were not dressed robert lee. others were imprisoned or taken away -- were not dressed properly, and others were imprisoned or taken away. >> i had no life. our l l l l l l l l l l l l l lw one of them, we did not want to pass them. we do not want to be stopped. we did not know what would happen. reporter: the piece here is still not secure -- peace is still not secure, and a return to i us control is still not known.% -- two -- to i.s. control is not known. anchor: needing more time before siding, a central african country has been at war since december 2013, and they are urging the warring actions to reach a deal by today or faith -- the warring factions to reach a deal by today or face an issue. both kiev and russian-backed rebels accuse each other of inflaming a situation. you are watching dw news. and there is a trade deal that includes an ambitious new pipeline between two countries, but there are concerns that it could be vulnerable to oklahoma prom -- two boko haram militants. don't go away. i am sarah kel

robert e. lee south used and misused the agreement at appomattox to foster sort of resegregation, we suppression of black americans after the union one of the civil war and slavery was supposed to be over. they essentially invoked free spirit of appomattox has mean that none of them should be prosecuted for war crimes. robert e. lee had been indicted actually after the war and he invoked appomattox and assisted that u.s. grant, you know invoke the agreement they had to protect robert e. lee. robert e. lee to elizabeth remained actually very reprobate on the issue of race. so he has saintly view in some person of history but this is a pretty, you know, penetrating and telling we assessment of how appomattox and what the meaning of appomattox was interpreted by the south and by the north really did damage for the next 90 years in terms of race in america. this book by tracy borman is a reappraisal of every kind of historic figure during the reign of henry viii. those were fans of st. thomas moore, un

. >> with john randolph's daughter married to robert e. lee? >> no, there was a family -- robert e. lee was married to george washington's granddaughter, great-granddaughter or something like that. he was kin to everybody in virginia, he was very well connected. it wasn't as close as that but there was a relation. >> okay. >> garland tucker, thank you so much. [applause] >> >> thank you. >> thank you for joining us everyone. we appreciate you being here. john locke foundation. [inaudible conversations] >> no more -- >> you're watching book tv, television for serious readers you can watch any program you see here online at booktv.org. >> pamela newkirk talks about her book of the 17th annual book fair. watch it now on book tv. >> well, thank you very much.

we are back right now with our panel jonas lee and robert. leetioned the junk bond and people are out, they're getting what they deserve, what's your take on the fed? that is to say lock hard statement and then what other economists seem to be expecting. >> well, for the -- i think for the viewers we have to say the two biggest issues. number one is signaling, hey, we're going to make a nominal rate hike, it's not going to change the world. but if we do it in september, i think the timing is going to be off. i don't think they're going to be able to do it because we have profits desilly cell generating here in america. so while we want to see that rate rise so we know the economy is overheating, now it's just the worst possible time. i think barkly's right. i think they're going to push it back to 2016 because the profits are going to look horrible come september. deirdre: jonas. >> i want to blame the victim here. the bond funds don't say junk bond funds and then those managers are the ones in junk bonds -- deirdre: but they should know better,

robert e. lee is obsessed with the ideals of being basically a gentleman in british terms and his code is locked in the 1820 cozy and 1830s. his speech patterns are. lee, you dare not curse around lee. just don't dough do it. early gets away with it. hari heath can get away with it. then grant dunce doesn't use on sents but is awe beated by people who do. he loves sheridan, and share don would goal on these tirades and grants sits there smiling and laughing. the lesson of this is not that you have to curse like a -- my old drill sergeant to be a successful leader but it's that leaders come in many forms. you get the incredibly inspirational robert e. lee who is a ridgeed gentleman and he gets early. early likes so many of the confederate generals who performed well lee early hampton, he was strongly opposed to secession. he went to the virginia convention made speech against iting fought against it. but like the -- as wade hampton opposed cessation in the carolinass and when their states cede the w

we came down here in app mattocks and became a confederate group because robert e. lee, general lee, surrendered with the forge. so they asked if we could be part of it. the group i belong to has about 85 people. we really like the living history piece. most of us are educators or former educators and like to interact with people. i never served in the military. so this is my way of paying back to those people that have gone before us. and, you know, served our country. >> are there any stories you can remember from the past four years that something -- >> you know, there's a couple things that happened at every single event. and i think the favorite -- my favorite is not necessarily one in particular event. but at every event we seem to connect with the local people. and like yesterday, for example, we had some chicken stew. and a couple ladies came by. we offered, do you want chicken stew. they said yes. they ate stew with us for dinner. this was two days ago. and yesterday they came back and -- well, let me show you. they came back with lemon pound cake and cookies f

like robert e. leeho is obsessed with being a general and can't see beyond virginia, if a man like that who has failed in everything in his previous life as a genius for war and even grants on subordinates don't get him. sherman doesn't get them at first. sherman has to learn but grant is the first guy in any army that i can find european north american and south american, he's the first guy to realize what modern war requires. he won the battle of gettysburg against robert ailey but the moral of all these generals were you march out and fight a battle somebody went and somebody loses and you go back in your corners and replenish and go back to fight another battle or have another campaign. grants inside is that war has to be constant. and modern war you must grind the enemy down. as a percentage of forces engaged lease losses are consistently higher than grants except the coal harbor. grant knows what it takes to win. he is also the first general who divorces himself from the battlefield. he only occas

we're just a little deeper. >> logan: what's remarkable is that the "robert e. leeer watery grave with the u-boat that sank her, the u-166, seen here during sea trials in this old german film. now, she lies under 5,000 feet of water. for decades, no one knew these wrecks were just a few miles apart until b.p. and shell oil conducted a pipeline survey here in 2001. how many people died on here? >> ballard: the whole crew. >> logan: their bodies are still inside? >> ballard: they're still inside. that's a tomb. >> logan: bob ballard's mission was to try to film both wrecks in ways they hadn't been seen before. >> ballard: so now you just go straight up and around like you're going to crawl up onto the deck. look at that beautiful reveal. oh, i love that. >> logan: as luck would have it, the seas were calm and the images he captured are considered some of the clearest views of these sites. they're featured in a "nova"- "national geographic" documentary. >> ballard: okeanos, that's really cool. >> logan: bob ballard is not alone in his american adventure. his ship, the

. >> robert e. lee high was named that same year.dy evans says more research is needed to how the school got the name before they make any decisions on changing it. there's no timetable for that decision. >>> two men being held without bond on gun charges after making threats against competitors at the pokemon championships in boston. the 18-year-old and 27-year-old of iowa were stopped by security as they tried to register. police say the two made threatening statements in an online pokemon forum referring to the boston marathon bombings and the columbine high school massacre. officers found a 12 gauge shotgun, an ar-15 rifle and several rounds of ammunition in their car. >>> the late show with steven colbert premieres in two weeks on wusa 9 and cbs. today the network announced his entire first week of guests. he kicks it off tuesday, september 8th with george clooney and jeb bush. wednesday he's got scarlet johannson, elon musk and kendrick lamar. thursday, uber ceo and toby keith. friday, colbert will be joined by comedian amy sch

. >> the carving which took nearly 50 years to complete, depicts jefferson davis, robert e. leeand thomas stone wall jackson, all leaders of the confederacy. atlanta councilman has proposed keeping the monominute, but adding natives like martin luther king jr. >> yet the con fed rassey was only four years of that. and so the confederacy seems to dominate the perception of what is historic georgia, and that's really far from the case. the naacp has a very different approach, the group wants the monomoment completely removed. >> for people that claim that it is art, they are a lot of artistic expressions but that arth is not worth another black life. over the weekend hundreds gathers peacefully at the stone of the mountain. >> you are not offended by it. >> not at all, people with use it for bad or good, it is just a symbol. others a t the rally came with other intentions. are you with the kkk. >> i am. >> and i am very proud to stand up for my heritage, if these people now what they were talking about they would know that the kkk was started by six con federal soldiers. >> so wha

but her husband, phillips lee, who was a cousin of robert e. lee, was in the union navy. and because he was in the navy, she wrote to him pretty much every day. >> yeah. >> and the letters are just a treasure trove. >> they're great. yeah. >> they really are. >> well, there's so much in here i encourage people to spend a lot of time with it because it's just great reading. >> well, they were great ladies. fun to learn about. >> good for you. i want to ask about this concept of women in leadership roles performing amazing feats and contributing but perhaps not getting, you know, enough credit for it or claim for it. in the two areas in which you have lived your life, journalism, and politics, i was reminded when john dickerson was named to replace bob schieffer on "face the nation." his mother -- >> nancy. >> -- was one of those pioneering women journalists. it is not that long ago that women did not occupy an equal place. i mean, just the other day -- >> are you kidding? [laughter]. >> right. but, you know, the other week we had a deal where every questioner at the presid

. >> reporter: the carving which took nearly 50 years to complete depicts jefferson davis, robert e leestone wall jackson all leaders of the confederacy. atlanta councilman michael bond has proposed keeping the monument but adding historical georgia natives like president carter and martin luther king junior. >> the confederacy was only four years of that so the confederacy seems to dominate the perception of what is historic georgia and that is really far from the case. >> reporter: the naacp has a very different approach and the group wants the monument completely removed. >> for people who claim it is art, there are a lot of artistic expression but that art is not worth another black life. ♪ over the within hundreds rallied peacefully and what they call the pro-confederate gathering at the base of stone mountain. you are not offended by it at all? >> not at all, it can be used for bad or good it's just a symbol. >> reporter: others at the rally like the self proclaimed head of the georgia ku klux klan came with other intentions. sir are you with the kkk? >> i am with the kkk and i'm

it's good for people to render that - remember that flag was flown by robert e. lee and when he surrendered he put it away. it wasn't flying over washington and lee when he was the president of their. it was a response to the civil rights movement in the 1950s and that's what it represents. most of the state flag in georgia was the battle flag of northern virginia and flying over the state capitol was teaching in south carolina. as a people are looking at that issue more or less in the face although there've been 100 plus protein federate flag rallies. i don't know how big, scattered around the south. >> and there will continue to be. but i don't want us to forget or underestimate the power of the families. it is in the act of forgiveness and christianity. >> you will have to fight it out >> the texas state board covering textbooks and the approval of them has been recently considering history books and the treatment of slavery. i'm curious whether you have had any opportunity to talk about your book in texas and what you might recommend to those trying to get a broa

remember that that flag, the battle flag of the northern virginia was the flag that was flown by robert e. leeand he surrendered. it started flying again as a response to the civil rights movement in the 1950's. that's what that flag represents. when i was going to school in atlanta, you know, most of the state flag of georgia was the battle flag of northern virginia, and of course, it was flying over the state capital the whole time. my father was teaching in the university of south carolina. i'm glad that people are finally looking at that issue, more or less, although there have been 100-plus proconfederate rallies, i don't know how big scattered on the south. >> and it will continue to be and i don't want anyone to underestimate -- >> i don't think so. >> unbelievable acts of you know, forgiveness. >> cristianity. >> absolutely. >> i know y'all are going to have to fight it out there. [inaudible conversations] >> i've been noting that the texas state board covering textbooks has been recently considering history books in this treatment of slavery. i'm curious whether you have -- whether yo

it is martin luther king day/robert e. lee day. we are celebrating those things.nd you cannot celebrate those things and move forward with reconciliation. charlie: you have suggested the confederacy was only about protecting slavery. bryan: it was primarily about slavery. charlie: so anyone who fought on the side of the confederates was in fact giving his approval to slavery? bryan: i don't think there is any doubt that had the south one slavery would have continued. i mean, we can make up all of dose arguments and we try to recognize that slavery was bad. it is a false way of thinking about identity. there were white people in the south in the 19th century who were against slavery. and nobody knows their names. there were white people against lynching, against segregation. we should know their names and we should honor them. if you want to have a state holiday, have it after them. but to engage in this false narrative that demonizes those victims by not recognizing -- it absolutely does. it would be insulting to say that people in germany were still execute peopl

he offered command to robert e lee. that was the same day that lee -- virginia seceded from the union. he had offered the command to lee. david farragut is the first admiral of the navy. you probably remember him more than anything else for the expression "damn the torpedoes full speed ahead." that's not exactly what he said. but the shorter version is a little more catchy. winfield scott hancock is also a very important general. those of you that have seen the movie "gettysburg" -- he was the corps commander of the second core, which is the union core that faced picket's charge. he is a fairly significant fellow. he eventually became major-general and commanded the left-wing of the army of the potomac. he ran for president in 1880 and narrowly lost to garfield. the next fellow is george thomas, known as the rock of chickamauga. his defense saved the union army. he later became the general of the army of the cumberland. he essentially destroyed the confederate army of tennessee at nashville. military experts rate him as

. >> reporter: jeb in battle in 1864 but this high school got its name in 1959, along with robert e leeigh, at a time when the civil rights movement was gaining steam. now a group is petitioning for the district to drop the name. >> it was to keep people of color from getting an education here in their public school. it was all the more reason to do this. >> the timing is connected there but whether or not the name change, the name itself was for that reason, haven't been able to kneel down yet. >> reporter: they're going to pour over the petition which now has over 30,000 signatures to see what kind of support a name change has. >> i want to keep this as our community discussion. >> reporter: the effort to change the name started before the confederate battle flag controversy that erupted after the killing of nine people at a south carolina church. two prominent alumni for the school, actress julian more and bruce cohen are jumping on the bandwagon. >> if they want to change the name, they can change the name but the fact of the matter is there's bigger issues. fairfax sports could dis

. >> the carving which took nearly 50 years to complete depicts jefferson davis, robert e. leeand tomas stonewall jackson, all leaders of the confederacy. the moment is proposed to be kept but adding historical georgia natives like former president jimmy carter and martin luther king, jr. >> the confederacy seems to dominate the conception of historic georgia and that's not the case. >> the naacp has a different approach and wants the monument completely removed. >> some people who claim it as art, there are a lot of artistic expressions, but that art is not worth another black life. >> over the weekend, hundreds rallied peacefully at what they called the pro confederate gathering at the base of the mountain. >> you are not offended? >> no, people can use it for bad or good. it's just a symbol. >> others at the rally like the self proclaimed head of the georgia ku klux klan came with other intentions. >> are you with the k.k.k.? >> i am and i'm proud to stand up for my heritage. if these people knew what the hell they were talking about, they would know that the k.k.k. was star

it is martin luther king day/robert e lee day.t's not even that we are neutral or silent about those things, we are celebrating those things. and you cannot celebrate those things and move forward with reconciliation. charlie: by saying that, you suggest the confederacy was only about protecting slavery. bryan: primarily. charlie: so anybody who fought on the side of the confederates supporting slavery. bryan: no question. i don't think there is any doubt that if the south had won the war, slavery would have continued. he could make all these arguments, and we try to do it because we recognized slavery is bad. look, there were white people in the south in the 19th century who were against slavery, and nobody knows their names. there were white people against lynching, against segregation. we don't know their names and we we should know their names and we should honor them. we should name schools and streets out of -- after them. if you want to have a state holiday, have it after them. but to engage in this false narrative, it demo

through to the victory of vicksburg, later chattanooga, and then into virginia in 1864 against robert e. leeat, by the way, is going to be my next boot. i'm going with grant to virginia. i'm not abandoning the western theater. after all he came from the western theater, and i still live here. so, we're not abandoning the western theater, just going eas to show them how it's done. but i'm looking forward to that. and as i did with the book on grant at vicksburg, the general and the siege. i like to focus on him on a daily basis, what was he doing. never really read anywhere, what was he doing during the seeming of vicksburg on a daily bay is? what roles did he actually play? and i will do that in -- with him in virginia, too. so, i think to use one of the phrases we're used to these days-grant went from rags to riches and did it the hard way. he earned it. and he had to really fight and scrap, but he made it. >> a question toward tom here. involves one of mississippi's own guys, earl van dohrn, i hear he is quite the lady's man, and suspect, general? >> easterly van dohrn is a fascinating ind

on april the ninth, 1865, general robert e. leeurrendered and the sultana sank in the mississippi river. it remains the worst maritime disaster in american history. alan huffman tells us overlooked story. thank you so much for joining us. we will be opening a phones a later on in the program, and comments to alan at our e-mail address. rshow@wmu.org. let's start by describing what you have on the front of your book, a picture of the sultana. describe it to the audience. alan: the boat in the painting is in flames in the middle of the river, and you see a lot of rescue boats and it is night and you see people drifting down the river clinging to debris. obviously it is that it was painting but it does -- obviously it is a stylized voteing but it does the evoke what was going on. the river was full of people. there were 2400 people aboard a boat that was supposed to carry 375, roughly. after it exploded and caught higher, you had people and horses swimming in the river channel, and in some cases, there may have been eight or nine guys

. >> reporter: it took nearly 50 years has davis and robert e lee and thomas stone wall jackson all leadersederacy. atlanta councilman michael bond has proposed keeping the monument but adding historical georgia natives like former president jimmy carter and martin luther king junior. >> it's over 280 years old. and yet the confederacy was only four years of that and so the confederacy seems to dominate the perception of what is historic georgia and that is really far from the case. >> reporter: the naacp has a very different approach and they want the monument completely removed. >> for people claim there are a lot of artistic expression but that art is not worth another black life. ♪ over the weekend hundreds rallied peacefully at what they call the pro con -- confederate at the base of the building. >> they can use it for good, it's just a symbol. >> reporter: others at the rally like the self proclaimed head of the ku klux klan came with other intentions. are you with the kkk? >> i'm with the kkk and very proud to stand up for my heritage if people knew what the hell they were talking a

we don't even have martin luther king day, it's martin luther king/robert e. lee day. it's not even that we are neutral or silent about those things. we are celebrating those things. and you cannot celebrate those things and move forward with reconciliation. >> rose: by saying that, you suggest that the confederacy was only about protection-- protecting slavery. >> it was primarily about slavery. >> rose: so anybody who fought in the civil war on that side of the confederates was, in fact, giving his dic shall did -- to slavery. >> i think there is no question about that. i don't think that there is any doubt that had the south won the war, slavery would have continued. we can make up all of these other arguments. and we try to do it because we recognize that slavery is bad. but it is a false way of thinking about identity. lack, there were white people in the south in the 19th century who were against slavery. and nobody knows their names. there were white people who were against lynching. there were white people who were against segregation and we don't know their na

cnn's mj lee plus robert costa of "the washington post." it is debate week for the republicans who hope to be our next president. thursday night is a big test for all of them, and a defining moment for one. >> i am going to be donald trump. i think if i'm not donald trump it's not going to look good. i'll do my best. i've never done it before. >> now that novice debater as he says will walk onto the stage in cleveland as the republican front-runner leading in the national poll, first in new hampshire, second in iowa. he expects to be, probably rightly so, the center of attention. and he wants you to think he's a little worried. >> i don't know. you don't know what's going to happen. you're up there, and you're talking. you don't know who's coming at you. if i watch you and everybody else, they're all coming at me. whatever it is, it is. >> whatever it is, it is. it is a defining moment. we have laughed at his candidacy, then questioned his candidacy. the polls speak for themselves. and the numbers don't lie. he is the force in the race righ

jesse lee roberts and jared williams opened fire trying to rob this truck in february.happened in the middle of the day at a busy shopping center in south riding. one of the guards returned fire and wounded roberts. he pled guilty to three felony charges and will be sentenced next year. williams pled guilty in june and will be sentenced next week. are >>> a new list out ranking the most stolen cars in the country. it was broken down state by state. the cars stolen the most in our area include the 2006 ford pickup, the 2002 dodge caravan, the 1996 honda accord, and the 2014 toyota camry. older models are stolen more than newer ones because of the demand for parts for ar complete break xbroun of the list, search stolen cars on our nbc washington app. >>> public sometime has time to offer an opinion on where to move a confederate statue. right now that statue at the courthouse in rockville. many people want it removed from there after the shooting in south carolina, someone spray painted black lives matter on that statue. five locations have been considered. they include a

jesse lee roberts and jared williams opened fire trying to rob this truck in february.it happened in the middle of the day at a busy sho shopping center in south riding. one of the guards returned fire and wounded robert, he pled guilty to three felony charges. williams pled guilty in june and will be sentenced next week. >>> please need your help finding the man in these surveillance pictures. they believe he robbed a shell gas station in arlington earlier this month. police say the man smashed the front door glass then stole several cartons of cigarettes, gar and then took all he appears to have long dread locks and a tattoo on his right arm. call arlington police if you know anything. >>> if you're near the u.s. capitol tonight or tomorrow, prepare for some road .naclosu officials are practicing medical helicopter evacuations. there's going to be one tonight and tomorrow from 6:30 to 8, another one tomorrow morning between 6:30 and 8. if you see a couple of police helicopters landed on the st front of the capitol at union square or the west front by the reflecting p

abc 7 news reporter vic lee has the story. >> reporter: robert webb is an army veteran who is sight impaired. he lives at the academy along with 100 others. many of them senior citizens and disabled just like him. right across the street, gerard road, a new crosswalk, compliments of the joint doyle drive project. but webb avoids it at all costs. >> it took a while for me to cross because people weren't generous in letting me cross. >> reporter: veterans support group tried to get cal trans for the presidio trust to install traffic controls but to no avail. >> this is where we're at. that's why we turned to you. >> reporter: when cal trans expanded doyle drive, it created a new ramp off gerard road. the street went from a sleepy two-lane road to four lanes. with that came lots of traffic. fast traffic. what's more, there's no stop sign or signal. not even a speed limit sign. navy veteran tom toe bin is also sight impaired. >> that noise. it's like a dodge ball over here. they're coming up here and think they think it's an extension of the freeway at 60 miles an hour. >> to catch his bus, webb

robert moses has more on this investigation and what we note this morning. >> reporter: vester lee flanagan bounced from one station to the next often causing trouble as he went. in a long suicide note he suggested the killing of nine black parishioners in a charleston church was a tipping point for him. he was a volatile man whose anger that him to murder two people who by all accounts stood for all that is good in our industry. >> good morning. >> as the sun rose wdbj viewers them the story as she did each morning. it was like morning show fair, a story about tourism. >> we are seeing to resume. >> gunshot on live television, screams from parker and horror from the anchor in the studio with esther colleagues getting murdered. vicki gardner was injured. >> not sure what happened, we will let you know as soon as we find out. >> reporter: as the camera toppled to the ground it captured this image of the gunmen later identified as vester lee flanagan who was fired, flanagan went by the name of bryce williams and posted video on facebook and twitter. image. jerrell against former colleagues on

lee and angela cliffs. it did take a two day is or is so to complete the tests. robert: 3600 power customers on long island still in the dark this morning after tuesday's's intense storms. the utility hand out water and ice to keep people cool in and out reach center yesterday. plans to open more of those centers from stony brook and st. james today, more than 80,000 customers lost power at the height of that storm which the countries and power lines in parts of northern suffolk county. president obama going all-out to make his case to get congress to support his iran nuclear deal, really strong words from the president yesterday. >> he compared this to the diplomacy that helps avoid nuclear catastrophe in the cold war. the agreement has come and the criticism on both sides of the israel side as well. the same politicians against this deal argued for the iraq war more than a decade ago. ben: you will hear a >> you will hear a lot of arguments against this steel by tens of millions of dollars in advertising. if the rhetoric in these ads and the accompanying commentary so