>> yeah, he was -- according to i think it was a fellow named robert leford who talked about the origins of the osawatomie speech, he was suggesting that as sid suggests that t.r. was hoping to capture the insurgency and sort of -- >> and channel it. >> yeah, channel it away from. he wasn't thinking of running as a full-on challenger at the time. although he kept dropping these horrible comments about the taft administration. he was hoping to sort of use this occasion to say, okay, i'm one of you guys and we can now keep this progressive sentiment within the republican channel. >> yeah. >> did you have a follow-up? >> yeah. would bit possible perhaps that president obama intended brown analogy that would be something along the lines of for the tea party? after me, the deluge. >> well, there was a part of my remarks when i thought i had 20 minutes on the cutting -- it wound up on the cutting floor which talked about his deafening silence on john brown. it would seem to me that the first african-american president should make a statement about john brown and lincoln and the declaration of