robert e. lee, these are not guys who were fighting to strengthen our union. they were insurrectionists. the constitution defines treason as levyinginst the united states. these are guys that we are putting up on pedestals who tried to tear our nation apart. i have a hard time making the argument for keeping them there in these public places. i think context matters. now, you know, there may be an argument to preserve some of these statues in an educational context somewhere else. but i think that it's important to remember that there have been decades in some cases of protests and people really pleading about removing these statues. they've caused a lot of pain, and they did, as you say, a lot of them went up in the jim crow era and went up in the early 20th century, and are very, very problematic. but as we look back through history, as i said, this is nothing new. and i think one of the things that's important is we have to grapple with the idea that not everything is permanent just because it's big and heavy and goes up on a pest stal. we have to continuously re-evaluate what are the things we want to honor and what are the th