robert litan heiser, u.s.y radical of the currency policies in china. he said that china is more protectionist than any other country. then there is rex tillerson who has made those very interesting comments that they would not allow china to access the island that they are reclaiming in the south china sea. sherry: that issue and the one china policy in taiwan, that is something that china is not compromising. where do they draw the line with trump? >> they are seeking economic cooperation. that has been the bedrock of this relationship over the past couple of decades. stephen: economic gain for china really. trump argued that we have been economically robbed. china says that on the geopolitical front, the one china policy and also the china sea, these are defining, cour interests. -- core interests. on the one hand, we like economic cooperation-- but democracy is dead they say. we're been hearing this for a long time. democracy has reached its limit. they have been saying that for years. sherry: they are ver