my name is robert mark asher goodman. i'm in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, in erie, pennsylvania, and i serve 2 congregations, a large one and a small one. it's an incredible honor to be on the stream with us to nita and sister rosemary, to human rights champions, who i admire the work that they do so much. i'm just thinking about where we are in terms of our global pandemic. and it took us a little while to work out. how do we worship? how do we get together when we can't physically get together? but now that we work that out and people coming back together again, how do you get people to come back to synagogue? boy, that is a great question and if you solve it, you could be on our board of directors and not be very well not. so i recommend snacks, lutely a, we call it kiddish. it's the, it's the snack that comes at the end of services. a good kiddish will always turn people out. and one of the challenges during the pandemic was that most north american synagogues, churches, a lot of different religious faith organizations,