>> robert mitchum did that to me. i love robert mitchum. it was right here in new york. i couldn't wait to interview him. he one-worded me through the whole thing. it got so bad i said, what was it like to work with john houston? he said, seen one, seen them all. i said, are you telling me it makes no difference? no, you do your job, you go home. if you work at it long enough and hard enough, you can draw people out. i've taken people who are very nervous at the beginning and changed them. i think the job of the host, the host's job, it's his show, is to draw the interview out. if it's impossible, it's impossible. he has a role to do, and i try to play that role. you have to be curious, have you to make the guests comfortable. the guest has to know, in my case, that i don't have any agenda. i'm not that appraiser, i'm there to learn, i'm a conduit to the audience. >> do you ever get criticized for being too tough or too soft on a guest? >> i've heard both of those things, i don't know what i do, i just know that i do it, you know what i mean? you can't do it all these ye