professor robert moore makes a fascinating statement. he is the president of the institute for world spirituality; he's a jungian psychoanalyst; he's a professor at chicago theological seminary. we were able to catch hold of him just after a conference that he'd had with this world spirituality center that he's directing, and he just nails it down in this short interview that unless religion- and your good comment about, well, is it buddhist religion, is it daoist, is it christianity?- unless religions which have been, for better or for worse, the guiding force in determining ethical patterns of action, unless they begin to come together first, and work with other aspects of society, well, it's another doomsday scenario, that we'rere just simply not gog to make it, not just as a nation, but as perhaps even a species. he went a bit longer in our private talk after the interview, but this is an educated man, very well known, quite active in things such as cult activity. but he doesn't see the survival of any kind of orderly human race unle

68-year-old gentleman who hasn't had one day- he's not unlike in the previous class professor robert moore with his institute for world spirituality- he says, "we've got to make a new heaven and a new earth. we've got to create a society that overcomes these differences." for them, the survival is obvious on a day-to-day basis when their friends- as you say, janet- leaders, people who speak out like this, can be killed. as a matter of fact, we had to be very careful to have representatives from each group- and this is something that was beyond our comprehension. they said, "well, if you're going to talk to this person, you make sure he's on camera, and this person's on camera," and we just said, "fine, okay. just give us your directions." so that's the kind of thing we experienced there. yeah, virginia? >> i was thinking as i was watching these different people how hard it is for americans who are maybe diversified but we are isolated from the majority of these things to undstand the tension in which they live. if they say hi to somebody and that person says, "i'll slit your throat- what d

steven moore, senior economic writer and editorial board member, and professor robert rooich, a former secretary of labor under president clinton and author of beyond outraged, now available on paperback. should we be anticipate with 2.5% growth? does that indicate things are getting better for most americans? >> take anything we can get. the average growth over the last year has been about 2%. we're definitely going in the right direction. i agree with you, it is too early to break out the champagne. there are a lot of storm clouds on the horizon at sequester that very low proportion of working age americans actually in the workforce, about as low as we have had since 1979. >> is that because of retiring? are they giving up hope or retiring? >> well, some of them are undoubtedly giving up hope. they're not moving back into work. many are men who are over 55 years old and can't get work and out of work for a record length of time and it is doubtful they're ever going to get back in the workforce. >> steven, the sequester took effect march 1st. the sky has not fallen yet. everything is

steven moore is on the wall street journal. robert robert reich worked under president clinton. 2.5% growth? >> let's take anything we can get. the average growth over the last year has been about 2%. we're definitely going in the right direction, but i agree with you. it is too early to break out the champagne. there are a lot of storm clouds on the horizon, the sequester. about as low as we had since 1979. >> is that because of retiring? are they giving up hope or retiring? >> well, some of them are undoubtedly giving up hope. they're not moving back into work. many of them are men who are over 55 years old. they can't get work. they have been out of work for a record length of time. it's doubtful they're ever going to get back into the work force. >> steven, the sequester took effect march 1st. the sky has not fallen yet. everything is still here. can the u.s. afford to pull back spending when this recovery is is still so delicate? >> well, that's a good question. if you look at this new gdp report, it is pretty clear that if you take out government actually private sector gr

reasonable, robert cos costa, to expect a slew of other female members to get into augusta national anytime soon, either, i would imagine? >> i'm not so sure about that, uv secretary of state rice, miss mooret i think the problem here when you come to the question of whether she should be an advocate, they consider this to be a golf club and them to be members of this golf club and they don't see it as a political entity, where they're trying to look at it through a political prism. that's the important line here. they see it as a golf club, but others understandably see it as something they should be pushing harder for. >> let's pivot here. we don't like to have too many conversations about women without talking about hillary clinton, you know, here on the network. hillary clinton, last week, at the women in the world summit, where she repeatedly said women are agents for change. how can hillary clinton straddle both, being a trailblazer and an advocate, especially if she runs for president? >> i think hillary clinton's been doing it her entire career, but she now has a lot of political questions ahead of her. i think she's probably the front-runner for the democratic nomination. but the