i can give you an example from robert moses and lyndon johnson. robert moses was so popular in new york city, i went to horseman, and everyone at our class had to write for their junior paper, robert moses is the perfect example of the great night in literature. knight. that was the 1950's. by the 1970's, he was a great villain of new york. so everything changes. >> so you're not going to answer my question? i i will say that's things -- will say that things that look so important and vital right now in the obama presidency are going to look different. we already -- the events of the moment are what captures everyone's attention. it is seldom mentioned right now that when he took office, people were walking around worrying about whether they had more than $100,000 in the bank because the bank might fail or that he came to the office with a war in iraq or that's -- and that was really a problem. most important, he came to office, and no one mentions this, at the very crest of the tide of conservatism that you could say began near the end of the lyn

in fact, i can give you an example from robert moses. robert moses was so popular in new york city -- i want to harness mann, and we had to write -- everybody in my class had to write for their junior paper, robert moses is the perfect example of the great knight in literature -- >> knight. >> in the 1970's, he was the great villain of new york. everything changed. >> you are saying -- you are not going to answer my question. >> sure. i would say that things that looked so important and vital and the obama presidency right now are going to look different. for example, the events of the moment are what captures everybody's attention. so, it is seldom mentioned right now that when he took office people were walking around wearing about whether they had more than $100,000 in the bank because the bank might fail. or that he came to office with a war in iraq. that was really a problem. and in that most important, he came to office and no one really mentions this, at the very -- tied of conservatives that you could say began at the end of lynd

i can give you an example from robert moses. he was so popular in new york city. everybody in our class had to write for their junior paper, robert moses is a great example of a great night in literature -- knight in literature. that is in the 1950's. by the 1970's, a key was the great villain of new york. everything changes. >> you're not going to answer my question. >> i will. i think that things that look so important and vital in the obama presidency right now are going to the difference. for example, in the event of the moment, that captures everyone's attention, it is seldom mentioned that when he took office people were walking around worrying about whether they had more than $100,000 in the bank because the bank might fail. he came to office with a war in iraq. that was really a problem. most important, he came to office and no one really mentions this, the tide of conservatism began. it had come to a crest and is crashing with the irrationality of the tea party movement. these are all things he has had to face. i think however we feel about it now, a hist

by the fed great leaders like alexander the great, cleopatra, certainly robert moses and lyndon johnson, and these people were very comfortable with their aggression. it seems to me that barack obama is very tied up in his own identify as a nice guy. he was a nice cushion blais, a health-care is a nice thing to give all of these programs. -- he was a nice christian boy, and health care is a nice thing to give all of these programs. there seems to be 11 to what one can accomplish. to do that, one has to be comfortable saying i had a nasty side. i have a values i want to of hold. -- uphold. >> she is pushing "nice guy." >> there is no question that the ones we consider to be the great presidents had in very many cases had a kind of ability to channel which you labeled their at aggression. i would give you the example of the person who is considered by historians to be the greatest president ofll. abraham lincoln did not have an aggressive bone in his body. he was ambitious but he was exceedingly thoughtful, reflective, and he put the greatest priority onrying to bring the country back tog

look a great leaders through history, alexander the great, julius caesar, cleopatra, certainly, robert moses, lyndon johnson. indeed all people who were comfortable with their aggression. it seems to me that barack obama is very tied up in his own identity as a nice guy. he was a nice muslim boy, a christian boy, healthcare is a nice thing to give -- all of these programs -- to give to people. but unless one is comfortable fighting, maybe even dying for what one believes in, there seems to be a limit for what one can accomplish. to do that, one needs to be comfortable saying i have a nasty side. i am not afraid, when i have values, but i want to uphold, to be nasty to those who disagree. >> anybody want to respond to that? >> there is no question the most forceful president, the one that we consider to be great presidents, had in many cases, not in all cases, and ability to channel would you label their aggression. but i will give you an example of the person considered by historians to be the greatest president of all. abraham lincoln. abraham lincoln did not have an aggressive bone in his