of course, the deputy attorney general could fire robert mueller. remember, that's sort of one of the interesting questions that's been going on throughout this thing. when the president had indicated he was so upset with the investigation early on that he might fire mueller and there was a legal question about whether the president could do that. it's an unresolved issue. but undisputably under the special counsel regulations, the person overseeing him can fire robert mueller, although the special counsel regs say only for specific causes, not just because you think it's a witch hunt. that's the first thing. the second thing is the person supervising the robert mueller investigation approves all the big moves in the investigation. the budget has to be approved which, of course, is the life blood of any investigation. the money that it takes to do it. receives this report, makes basically all the big decisions, and if you think about it, the major times there have been indictments in the robert mueller investigation, they've not been announced by mue

tonight while president trump shows signs of stress over this investigation, experts say robert muellersures of his own. >> prosecutors among themselves have a cliche. if you are going to aim at the ki king, you better hit him. >> e perts say mueller's potenti potential damage to the president trump could go on. they say that the move that mueller could make which would really shake donald trump, a potential indictment of a member of trump's family like donald trump jr. or jcpared kushner an looking at whether they have been truthful with investigators. >> mueller so committed to being a prosecutor, he often hasn't lasted long in the private sector in his career. >> that's right. he is dogged about public service. in his entire tire career he has taken two breaks to take high-paying jobs as a private lawyer. they have lasted no more than a couple of years. he can't stand defending people who he thinks are goalie. he doesn't last long as a criminal defense attorney. >> that's a great line. thanks very much. >>> coming up, breaking news. president trump attacks the attorney general for al

robert mueller has the memos. whether or not he believes rod rosenstein was serious about wire tapping the president, we will see. all of this could impact the russia investigation in many, many ways. >> the question is from my sources that the president is being called by combative friends, if you let him say on, you look weak. the president agrees and had these questions about when. not what, but when? why would it matter now? >> your president's hearing from people who say why would you let him stay on and the "new york times" story furthered that assertion from the people. wean the president is at his golf club and at trump tower and time where he is talking to people. the president heading into a mid-term election where he recognizes his party is vulnerable is trying to figure out how to put himself in the strongest position possible. the same people who have been combati combative. >> that's remarkable. the conflicting advice the president has gotten. people like shawn hannity suggesting he should not fire h

you can see exactly why robert mueller would want to talk to the president one-on-one. n have a generic statement written by an entire legal team. >> what are you hearing? >> according to woodward's reporting, at least, mueller said to john dowd, the president's lawyer, i have to talk to him about comey. i have to be able to test intent, since the whole point of anything on obstruction would involve corrupt intent. that's the whole purpose of it. so it's clear, at least on that piece, he doesn't want to accept written answers, at least not yet. but i really do agree with jeffrey. i think all of this is sort of a wash at this point. i think if he was going to subpoena him, he would have done it already. and you can easily see him writing a report, saying, here were the gaps. here were the things we were not able to fill out, because the president refused to cooperate. >> and the president's lawyers believe, by the way, what you just said, which is they don't think mueller is likely to subpoena the president, particularly on issues involving privilege. so this is getting p

his future is now in robert mueller's hands. that brings the number of people in trump's orbit who pleaded guilty to five, but the white house and president trump's legal team continue to maintain donald trump has done nothing wrong. with me to discuss is former federal prosecutor glenn kirschner. here with me onset, political reporter and host of the podcast off topic on politics, grace rau. john, let me start with you. i want to get a sense of the magnitude of what happened yesterday in washington, d.c. when paul manafort returned to that courtroom. how does this hang the narrative? >> well, it is huge for a couple of reasons. number one, paul manafort is able to take robert mueller inside the trump tower meeting that's been a focus, we know about that. we also know he has the ability to shed light on what happened with regard to the changing of the republican platform. that's another area that's sort of a legal issue. third, if i were robert mueller i would be looking into what paul manafort did when he was the head of delega

robert mueller must be sitting on an even bigger iceberg at this point. >> well, you know, i hate the iceberg cliche but i've used it for the mueller probe because time and time again, we've learned when he makes public filings, that he's looking at things or has discovered things that we didn't even know existed. and to me, a big question here in this investigation is whether mueller is digging deep into some of these financial issues. trump's finances are very opaque, not just with any interactions with russia, but just in general. big loans from deutsche bank. we don't fully understand the origin or why they exist. that's the type of thing that mueller has a team assembled who specialize in white collar crime, money laundering. they could really dig into and that manafort might have some insight into. but we're still waiting to see -- you know, we don't have a lot of public signs yet, whether that is one big part of the probe or not. but if it is, you know, this could go on for a long time and go much deeper than just russia collusion. >> and, craig, what is your view of what kind

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what information do they have to offer robert mueller.th our panel and the message this plea sends to the president next. order pizza. -of course, daniel. -fridge, weather. -clear skies and 75. -trash can, turn on the tv. -my pleasure. -ice dispenser, find me a dog sitter. -okay. -and make ice. -pizza delivered. -what's happened to my son? -i think that's just what people are like now. i mean, with progressive, you can quote your insurance on just about any device. even on social media. he'll be fine. -[ laughs ] -will he? -i don't know. start with 100% cleancheese? ingredients. like vermont white cheddar. then... add bacon, bbq chicken, or baja blend. catering and delivery now available. panera. food as it should be. >>> welcome back, everybody. we are following two big stories this hour. the first, surrender. paul manafort copping a plea deal, agreeing to cooperate with special counsel robert mueller. what this means for the russia investigation, and who else the president's inner circle may be talking with robert mueller. >>> plus, dan

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in jail, that is overturned. 9-0, fifth circuit court of appeals, how does he get a job with robert mueller's office? >> he should not have had the job. mueller should have asked a lot of questions and didn't of peter strzok and andrew weissman. you have strzok who tainted the evidence, you have weissmann who tainted the evidence, you have a team of partisans appointed by mueller who refused to recuse himself, not to mention his boss that has the a discounted interest. this is the most corrupt and tainted investigation of my lifetime and i am 63 years old, and it goes beyond my lifetime. >> sean: sara has a much better career ahead of herself. let me ask this, mueller said that he might accept written answers. let me go to gregg on the legal side of it first. >> this is a victory for president trump's legal team, but it is a vindication of the rule of law that there was no legal basis for questioning the president about exercising his constitutional authority. there is no legal justification for asking them questions about a noncrime called collusion. so i think that mueller concluded the obv

how soon will robert mueller make his final play? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer you're in ""the situation room." >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >>> we're following two breaking stories including michael cohen's cooperation with prosecutors. abc news is reporter that the president's former lawyer has been interviewed by the special counsel's team for hours and hours on the president's russia dealings, possible collusion and whether anyone from the trump camp spoke to cohen about a pardon. >>> also breaking brett kavanaugh's awe caccuser, christine blasey ford, wants to testify next week if the terms are fair, but ruling out a monday hearing. i'll talk to preet bharara and jake sullivan. first let's go to evan perez, and cara a nell. tell us more about the new report on michael cohen. >> abc news is reporting a pretty big development that michael cohen, the president's former personal lawyer and someone who for a long time said he was willing to take a bullet for th

. >> cooperate with robert mueller., stick around. i want to bring in on the phone former federal prosecutor glenn kirschner again. what's your take? andrew weissman using the word cooperating? >> i tell you, if i were in court and this was not a cooperation agreement as a prosecutor rs i would have said probably this is a non-cooperation agreement or a straight plea agreement. i'm sure mr. weissman chose his words very carefully, and when he said this is a cooperation agreement, boy, that spells some real additional trouble for trump and his associates because if they have manafort, you know, open his book, so to speak, on everything he can tell the prosecutors about his time with the campaign, each and every conversation he had with the president, with don junior, with jared kushner. as we know now, this will be yet another source of information about the trump tower meeting. boy, this -- and i will be surprised if we see another interview with mr. giuliani saying that paul manafort continues to be an honorable man. i

of the the picture robert mueller investigation and where we are? >> a victory for robert mueller. tweeted paul manafort is a good guy, you do not plead guilty unless you are guilty. further evidence that, even if it is not having to do with russia collusion, clearly paul manafort broke the law. it creates the possibility that if paul manafort has something of interest to robert mueller, he could give it to a grand jury. it does not preclude him from providing information. julie: what would be motivated factor? place,as this deal in what could be offered to him? >> it would look better at sentencing. he will be sentenced to years in jail. no cap. if he throws himself at the mercy, when he is sentenced, prosecutors can say, he did not do a plea deal but provided helpful testimony. it is like michael cohen when he pleaded guilty. if he has the opportunity to curry favor, providing testimony. vonnie: this will be in the next hour we should find out live what happens in court. he has agreed to plead guilty to conspiracy against the u.s., by tampering with witnesses, and agreed to forfe

collaborate and share information in the investigation, specifically about what they've told robert mueller to that agreement, the president's old russia lawyer john dowd, says that he was debriefed by all the lawyers for all 37 of those other witnesses as to what they told mueller's investigators. that means the president's russia lawyers are very well informed about what everybody else has said to mueller thus far. we had previously known there was a joint defense agreement applying to a lot of people in the trump orbit. we had not previously known how many people were in it. but apparently, according to this woodward book, it's 37. all in the joint defense agreement. we are currently trying to find out who are the 37 witnesses with whom the president has signed a joint defense agreement so their lawyers are all sharing information. we're also trying to figure out if that is the agreement that was in place while john dowd was representing the president on russia, has that agreement changed in the months since john dowd left. it may be an important distinction. we know for example that mik

privilege. ♪ >> harris: president trump could be one step closer to a sit down with special counsel robert muelleror not. source telling fox news, an interview probably will not happen until after the midterm elections. former trump lawyer michael michael cohen is already met with mueller's investigators multiple times. white house correspondent kevin corke is live in las vegas where the president is today. kevin? >> what a great sound it is, always good to be back here in the valley, last night we had the "make america great" rally. i should say this, it appears at least at first glance that the president's legal team may be having just a bit and its resistance, to a possible conversation with special counsel bob mueller. that said, there is still a great deal of nuance and what his lawyers may or may not be willing to accept with respect to a possible conversation with bob mueller which is a nice way of saying frankly, we are pretty close to where we have been for quite some time. with the right set of circumstances, the president could ultimately answer questions. possible parameters include th

what does robert mueller do once he wrapped up this investigation? >> robert mueller will continue to do what he has done from day one of his work here, and that is pursue it with the utmost professionalism and adhere encef the rules and regulations and policies. it is not required to be made public, that's a deal made with rod rosenstein, so what happens next is with deputy attorney rod rosenstein. i do not share your perspective that we're getting anywhere near to wrapping this up, because there are years of activity on behalf of the trump organization that may very well play into the current investigation. and it is a painstakingly slow and difficult forensics exercise and undertaking to reconstruct all of that. i'm not convinced that on november 7, 8 or 9 we're going to get the final report whatsoever, chris. >> i wasn't meaning to imply that, just that this is another sort of step forward for robert mueller and obviously somebody who is in a critical position for five months to know what was going on in the middle of the campaign, in spite of wh

they would want people in the streets for days to protect robert mueller and robert mueller's work.re's historical pres decedenr that. i think the other thing is the price that would be paid to get anyone el confise confirmed in united states senate. it would be difficult to get anyone through the senate in the event the deputy attorney general was fired on thursday. >> thank you so much. >>> let's bring in a democrat. congress jim hines. thank you so much for being here. it's been a while. today was a bit of a wild cry this morning. no one knew what was going on. where is your head right now? >> well, my guess is that the white house realizes they are playing with fire. this is, to put it nicely, unpredictable, random, angry president. he's been handed an opportunity to very clearly and very publicly obstruct justice. you can imagine him demanding that rosenstein and going on tv as he did with lester holt to say i finally got these guys off my back. the investigation is over. that would be pretty clear obstruction of justice. my guess is the staff is thinking that through. there's

weeks after that dowd and still the president's present attorney jay sekulow go to meet with robert mueller, the special counsel, in his office and to try to convince mueller that he really can't do this interview with president trump, they re-enact what happened at the white house residence, one of them plays president trump, one of them plays mueller and they do this dramatization of it. its stunning. >> it certainly is stunning and its amazing but there's so much more based on your excellent reporting, jamie. the attorney general of the united states, jeff sessions, the president has been rebuking him and criticizing him and humiliating him publicly for a long, long time because he recused himself from the russia investigation and at one point, and this is from the book according to bob woodward, this is how he describes the attorney general of the united states. this guy is mentally retarded. he's this dumb southerner. >> this is beyond the pale. in some ways we're used to donald trump attacking jeff sessions because if you look at his twitter feed every day, there seems to be something

came up in the context of president trump reporting that incident with the egyptian president to robert muellering word of that incident to mueller's office as a way of basically trying to make mueller's team back off the investigation. quote, trump was continuing to explain to his attorney, john dowd, that the mueller investigation was hampering his ability to act as president. he passed on anecdotes that dowd could pass to mueller and -- with the proper clearances. one was a phone call with egyptian president, where said worried if you're going to be around. that's the question from the egyptian president that the president reportedly described as a kick in the -- a kick in the -- guts. a kick in the guts. not what he said. but the whole point of that anecdote, as colorful as it is, as colorful as the president's language is, the whole point of that anecdote is not just that the egyptian president said something that bugged president trump, but that president trump and his russia lawyer shopped that anecdote specifically to robert mueller and mueller's deputy at the special counsel's office a

"the new york times" called him robert mueller robert mueller's pit bull if you recall.nd in a case against anderson, remember his aggressive prosecution tactics, tens of thousands of your fellow americans lost their jobs, a conviction overturned 90. it's hard to lose 9-0 in a supreme court. responsible for the imprisonment of four lynch executives for a year. overturned also by the circuit court of appeals. he was excoriated by a judge for withholding exculpatory evidence. and you have bruce ohr bruce ohr, once the fourth highest ranking official in the doj, feeding the dirty russian dossier to the man that would then go on to be mueller's pitbull. and remember the exchanges between steele and bruce ohr. i hope the firewall holds. oh, and yeah, did the special counsel get your messages? so was andrew weissmann colluding? was he conspiring? why didn't robert mueller tell the american people about the context with bruce ohr and christopher steele, and why do we have to figure it out? catherine herridge did and we also know that and unearthed handwritten note from bruce oh

paul manafort copping a plea deal, agreeing to cooperate with special counsel robert mueller. what this means for the russia investigation, and who else the president's inner circle may be talking with robert mueller. >>> plus, danger in the carolinas. six people are dead as tropical storm florence continues to creep slowly across north and south carolina, dumping torrential rains. msnbc has live team coverage as that storm forces families to find higher ground. we'll begin today with another guilty plea in the russia investigation. paul manafort, the former trump campaign chair for who for a long time stood defiant is now cooperating fully with special counsel robert mueller. an investigation the president has dubbed a witch hunt has indeed snatched another witch. the news had its recalling this moment from 2016 when paul manafort stumbled in answering a question about russia. >> so to be clear, mr. trump has no financial relationships with any russian oligarchs? >> that's what he said. that's what i said. that's obviously what our position is. >> that's what the position is.

one more cooperator for robert mueller. he is samuel patten, the washington lobbyist with busy ties to a russian national who himself was a close colleague of paul manafort. he pleaded guilty to a charge of failing to register as a foreign agent, and he admitted to making false statements, obstructing the u.s. senate intelligence committee and causing foreign money to flow into the trump inaugural committee. what he's got to offer the special counsel remains to be seen. what he represents, though, is clear. another reminder on top of the manafort conviction, michael flynn, rick gates, george papadopoulos that what the president calls a rigged witch-hunt continues to bear fruit, which may explain the president's tweet storm on the subject the last several days, his attack on the attorney general, and his threat which he restated on the stump last night. >> all i can say this, our justice department and our fbi at the top of it, because inside they have incredible people, but our justice department and our fbi have to start d

robert mueller must be sitting on an even bicker iceberg at this point. >> i hate the iceberg cliche. i've use i'd it for the mueller probe, because time and time afen we've learned when he makes public filings he is looking at things or discovering things that we didn't even know existed. to me a big question here is in this investigation is whether mueller is digging deep into some of these financial issues. trump's finances are very opaque, not just about interactions with russia, just in general. big loans of deutsche bank. we don't understand the origin or why they exist. so that's the type of thing that mueller has a team assembled who specialize in white collar kriernlg money lapdering, they could dig into and manafort might have some insit into. but we're still waiting to see. we know a lot of public signs yet, whether that is one big part of the probe or not. but if it is, you know, this could go on a long time and go much deeper tan just russia collusion. >> craig, what is your view of what kind of exposure donald trump personally has on the russian money laundering you desc

as a former federal prosecutor yourself what is robert mueller doing?is he going to have to do in the coming months? >> well part of what he's doing is still a mystery and a source of frustration to some of us in congress because we've only seen of order of pointing robert mueller we haven't seen the second scope memo that rod rosenstein signed in august of 2017 and so when folks say let robert mueller do his job i'm all in favor of that but we need to know what his job is and so it seems incredible to me the members of congress with oversight responsibilities at the department of justice none of us have seen that scope memo so it's hard to comment on that with respect to robert mueller. i am one that has not questioned his integrity but i have questioned his judgment at times and the way he has staffed his team with folks that are very clearly anti-trump and pro- clinton partisan some of whom attended her victory party and had given her money and made derogatory statements about donald trump all call into question whatever findings he comes up with and

how big of a win is this for robert mueller? >> this is a huge win.nk this is what he was working towards. it was very clear manafort didn't want to go to jail for the rest of his life, and he cut a deal that if he cooperates in the way that they expect, and they expect he will testify fully, completely and truthfully before any and all grand juries about everything, okay? this is not limited. this is about everything. that he could get a lesser sentence. i think he made a decision that they wanted him to make, so i think it really could turn out to be a game changer depending on what he knows. and, of course, they're going to ask about the trump tower meeting, they're going to ask him about his business, they'll ask about his affiliations in the trump campaign. this could prove to be quite a gold mine for them despite the fact that sarah sanders is out there saying this has absolutely nothing to do with donald trump. >> remember, he's 69, almost 70 years old. he doesn't want to spend the rest of his life in jail. what else are you learning about what

you know, rudy giuliani keeps throwing punches, and robert mueller doesn't throw anything. fact, rudy giuliani told us today that he hasn't heard back from mueller in three weeks. he's getting nothing here. so rudy's just trying to make noise. and i will note, i continue to be fascinated by the fact that this is the friday before labor day. >> yeah. >> and we're sitting here. and you have the patten guilty plea, but you didn't have something major. >> it's only 9:15. >> i don't think the mueller team is working past 9:17, but do you think they're done until the midterms? >> this is what i think what rudy is talking about is really getting ahead of things. where he is with the mueller team is not, oh, the report's coming. it's is your client going to come in and talk to us or not, right? so they still have to close that loop. then they have to decide if they're going to subpoena the president or not. then there will be some back and forth over that and potential litigation. so this idea that mueller is about to release a report that giuliani has to be in d.c. to scramble and

so what do you think of the president and his surrogates now going after robert mueller?t in the book, what we now see is, president trump and the team, and he's got very able lawyers, have taken a page from the clinton playbook. it was a constant assault, as you say, and it does, in fact, erode confidence in the in the administration of justice, if the prosecutor's totally under attack all the time, it's not good. >> but president clinton did not call it a witch hunt. >> he may not have used those words, but i tell you, he unleashed very powerful hurricane-like forces. i mean, it really was unrelenting, and it was also very personal. the clinton white house, and i talk about this, went out after people on my staff. and they were going to take them out. i don't mean physically, but they were going to take people out. this was, this was -- as james stewart said in his book about the whole situation in the wake of the death of vincent post jr., this is blood sport. people play serious. >> i remember. paul begala, who was one of the president's advisers, went after you, rahm

i don't think robert mueller is going to be -- bob mueller is going to be concerned.ere is a possibility we end up not with a kitchen of the mueller probe, but hamstringing the mueller probe. how will the president take advantage of the situation? >> he would have to do it through the person that would replace rosenstein, which would , who is moreisco of a partisan type then rosenstein. rosenstein of course was a republican. what he should do is say everyone carries on business as usual. this is a doj investigation that needs to be carried through to completion. whether he does that, that would be quite a departure from what we have rbc from the president -- from what we have already seen from the president. see him shut down the ongoing investigation, i think we will see contentions of obstruction of justice. vonnie: i want to point out, going down the rabbit hole of who might be taking over if this were to occur, and we are reporting that it has occurred according to axios, he said that this solicitor general has had nothing to do with criminal prosecutions, and he

he's cooperating with robert mueller's investigation and he's brags about it.view? >> it's definitely not an ideal situation. you know, he is cooperating even though he claims he's not, going and talking about it publicly isn't going to do anybody any favors. doesn't help him. nobody is going to believe him -- >> jon: it doesn't? >> no, not at all. if he -- doesn't help the prosecution. so i'm not sure what he's trying to accomplish. he said two things essentially. one, i'm not cooperating. two, if i am saying anything, you should believe me. neither of these things make sense. saying you should believe me doesn't make people believe him. now he's met multiple times with mueller. if it's not cooperation, it's extensive sharing, which many people would refer to as cooperation. >> jon: rudy guliani has had a field day with his tweets saying he changed his story multiple times and saying you can't believe anything he says. >> that's the problem with talking under any circumstance. you're memorializing statements that can be used against you in the future. the topi

robert mueller is batting a thousand from everybody who he has pursued in court. he's batting a thousand in terms of securing cooperation from every single american who has been charged in this case, including the president's national security advisory, the president's deputy campaign chair and now the president's campaign chairman who has decades of links to the russian intelligence agencies. half the world watching this is now expecting a pardon for paul manafort from the president, maybe as soon as tonight, right? half the world expects that part. half the world thinks that would be nults and there's no way. but honestly, what counts as too improbable anymore? -of course, daniel. -fridge, weather. -clear skies and 75. -trash can, turn on the tv. -my pleasure. -ice dispenser, find me a dog sitter. -okay. -and make ice. -pizza delivered. -what's happened to my son? -i think that's just what people are like now. i mean, with progressive, you can quote your insurance on just about any device. even on social media. he'll be fine. -[ laughs ] -will he? -i don't know.

>> robert mueller does what he knows. as for the president's team, rudy giuliani, weighed in on the latest conviction, what did he say? >> that's right. what rudy giuliani basically called attention to the fact that there is no mention of donald trump in this plea deal. take a listen to what he had to say. >> it turned out to be this irrelevant indictment where mueller has turned into the private prosecutor. what does it have to do with president trump? not a single thing. had nothing to do with collusion and some guy who donated to the inauguration? my goodness, 500,000 people donated to president trump. the prosecutor is going to do it. >> rudy giuliani can minimize this plea deal today but the fact is this is the first time we are seeing on paper that the prosecutors have been examining any foreign money that went into the trump's inauguration. we know from our previous reporting that there were witnesses who were asked of russian money, ukrainian money that made its way into the campaign and the inauguration. it is so

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president goes about thinking about firing jeff sessions and an action like that, trying to fire robert mueller would certainly push that impeachment number up into even more people in favor. >> lawrence, i think that'd be the end if he fired bob mueller and the american people would support that. but i can promise the president and the american people that the president will get in congress fairer investigations than he probably deserves considering how he's attacked the independents of the department of justice and the rule of law. i don't think this is going to be a rush to impeach. this will be thorough exami examination of all of the alarming conduct he has engaged in. but also, lawrence, one other part of that poll you're referring to i believe 72% of the american people want the president to raise his right hand and go under oath and sit in the witness chair and answer bob mueller's questions and allow us to understand just exactly what happened. >> congressman eric swalwell, ron cline, jen, ruben, thank you for starting our conversation this evening. >>> and coming up with hurricane flo

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the cohen investigation started with the special counsel, robert mueller gave sdny the cohen case. we have news that the case of michael cohen appears to be wending its way back to the special counsel's office. emily jane fox reports at "vanity fair" tonight that michael cohen is now talking to robert mueller and his prosecutors in the special counsel's office. quote, it is now common knowledge among cohen's inner circle that cohen has been in contact with the special counsel's office. on a day when the campaign chair plead guilty to multiple felonies and agreed to cooperate with the special counsel, we learned another one who says he has been involved in felony misconduct with the president already, he too appears to be heading down that path. what a day for the president. joining us now is emily jane fox, senior reporter at "vanity fair," who broke this story. emily, great to see you. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> so you report that he is in contact with the special counsel's office, that he is talking to the mueller team. do you have any sense of the substan

robert mueller has not issued his report. i think people should say, i think candidates should be honest and frank and say we have to go where the law and facts are. the fact of the matter, though, is that we have evidence already in front of our eyes of corruption not only by the trump administration but by several members of congress, several republican members of congress and there is no investigation of that. there is no investigation. the republican congress is not lifting a finger to hold anyone in their party accountable. and that is number one -- the number one thing that has to change. so obviously democrats should hold the president accountable. they should members of congress accountable. and if robert mueller reports indictable offenses, they should definitely take up those proceedings. >> jason, a couple of months ago it was clear that the republicans believed that if they accused the democrats of wants impeachment, that's good for the republicans in the midterms. it is no longer clear to me that that is good and

a special counsel robert mueller 's investigation. there been reports for months that the team hopes to wrap up by the end of summer. certainly president trump 's personal attorney rudy giuliani has called for some and to the investigation in view of the midterm elections coming up. so far, no final report. once a republican says quote - hopefully sooner rather than later we will know what robert mueller finds. >> robert muriel will be allowed to do his job. i'm on the judiciary committee i'm not even chairman next year. -- i might be chairman next year. how the department of justice and the fbi really were out to get donald trump early on. reporter: robert mueller himself is not said when a final report will be out. he's been looking into whether members of the presidents campaign illegally colluded with russian officials during the 2016 election. senate democrats say they want to know how the president supreme court nominee, brett kavanaugh will have confirmation hearings on tuesday views the special counsel work. >> there is a seri

that's why they brought in robert mueller. think republican woulds be excited about robert mueller, someone who is impartial, aplight l call and would do a -- apolitical and would do a thorough investigation. heather: is that the way the process is supposed to work. the attorney general appoints a special counsel, quote, when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted. so they're saying that there was no proof up until this point. they couldn't find any proof of collusion. but yet they launched the investigation anyway. >> so i would answer that number one by listening to the president or at the time candidate trump's own statements on july 27th, 2016. he made a public statement that he wanted russians to release hillary clinton's e-mails and on that very same day russians hacked hillary clinton's e-mails. so again, we have statements. they actually said they thought there was something that needed further investigation and that's why they brought in robert mueller. heather: jen, you ge

the question is what is the nature of information robert mueller fields will be bible?d collusion between the russian government and the donald trump campaign? is it more to do with the other work by paul manafort ata with the other work by paul manafort at a lobbyist for the ukrainian government and what other individuals and institutions might be involved in that the seat in the united states? 0ne be involved in that the seat in the united states? one way or another robert mueller has got a very big result out of this this morning and given all that paul manafort is still facing a jail term. despite the white house in the last two minutes saying it has nothing to do with president donald trump, how much concern is there no going to be inside the administration about what now appears to be this cooperation? there will be huge concern about this. it is not clear what they mean by this has nothing to do with the president. the charges he has pled guilty to not directly to do with the president but the corporation may well be. that is what we do not know this stage. they

ken dilanian, and this is a guy, paul manafort, who suggested in no way would he cooperate with robert mueller, and what happened inside of the courtroo courtroom? >> that is right, chris. the big question of the day, and once we learned that paul manafort was going to plead g l guilty to the two charges was it a straight guilty plea or cooperating, and we have learned that in the past hour, he has flipped. a as colleague pointed out on twitter, when you cooperate with the prosecutors you don't get an opportunity to decide what to talk about, but you have to tell everything that you know, and if you are lie, you can be be charged with perjury, and so they have a huge hammer over his head, and he has to tell them about his time as the trump campaign manager and he came with massive connections to the russian-backed figures and including a man that the mueller team says was tied to rusrussia and he was in constant contact with constantine kalymnik, and so he is going to have to cooperate. >> and you said, i think that this is a bombshell, and what you said when i came on, and why? >> well, not s

what do you think it reveals about robert mueller's investigation?> i think sha moan was exactly right that this is starting to show a new line that he is investigating. when we talk about active measures by russia in the campaign, we're talking about a number of different fronts on which russia was operating. one is disinformation campaign and we know that mueller has already indicted several individuals and the internet research agency on its facebook and social media activities. then we have the hacking and intrusion into e-mails and voting machines. we already have an indictment on that on 12 russian intelligence officers. i think there's going to be another series of indictments concerning illegal campaign contributions and this patton plea being the first of them but where russia may have been using straw donors, illegal donors, to funnel money into places that they would otherwise not be able to directly. >> asha rangappa, thank you, we appreciate you being here. >>> with the mid-term campaign season kicking into high gear, president trump is