he said he had known a guy in jail named -- wait for it -- robert mullens, the very same who testifiedick's involvement in the murders. >> i mean, i already knew it. but to hear somebody else say it -- >> that mullens had lied. >> yeah. >> proud of what he was able to do. >> yeah. >> now the snitch on snitch story had the appeals judge's attention. >> the judge had to make a determination that the result of the trial would probably have been different. >> because mullens' story was that important in getting the conviction? >> right. >> the judge vacated rick's conviction saying the new county solicitor, the one who had replaced humphries, could refile charges if he wanted. the solicitor said he did not. so in 2013, after eight years inside, rick gagnon walked out of prison. he settled on the carolina coast now, married with children. >> just the smell of the ocean, you know, it's like freedom. it's a terrible thing that i went to prison for something i didn't do. it's changed my life. >> his old girlfriend believes her life was up-ended, too. bambi says she's cut ties with most of the

that they should be trying to hold to account if we go back and look at what the us military robert gates and mullen said about our publications of creating hypotheticals that maybe they would cause. our publications documented their involvement in a case by case level in the deaths of more than twenty thousand people in afghanistan and more than one hundred and eight thousand people in iraq those are the stakes that we were talking about. not only the dissolution of two societies but the deaths of over one hundred thousand people and so when you want to distract from this you just made the same accusation to the so the person that is making accusation against you it's sort of is akin to the kindergarten rhetoric the founder of wiki leaks julian sands there speaking to going underground from the ecuadorian embassy before we go to daddy street chambers in london to speak to julian's lawyer geoffrey robertson q.c. about the legal and human rights implications of the case i'm joined now from sydney in australia by legendary journalist and filmmaker john pilger john welcome to going on the ground you've