according to the new york times, investigators asked robert o'brien about discussions inside the cabinetinvoke the 25th amendment to remove mr. trump from office. the committee has already sat down with three other trump cabinet members, treasury secretary steve mnuchin, secretary of state mike pompeo, and commerce secretary, elaine chao. they have also reportedly sought information from trump's education secretary, betsy devos. just last week, the committee's chairman, benny thompson, told reporters that they have spoken to pretty much every senior person in the cabinet, and for the most part, they have all indicated their willingness to talk to the committee. in other words, we may soon learn a lot more about what trump's own cabinet was prepared to do to stop their own boss on january 6th. back with us again is luke broadwater, congressional reporter for the new york times, who's been reporting on the january 6th interviews with trump cabinet officials. you've been reporting on and everything that we're covering tonight. thank you for sticking around. the first question i have for you

many moments, we'll speak to robert o'brien, national security adviser to the trump administration. washington. hi, rich. >> good afternoon, martha. the justice department has charged a member of iran's islamic revolutionary guard corps with murder for hire. department officials say that he offered $300,000 to a perspective assassin to kill john bolton in washington or maryland. >> we face a rising threat from regimes to look to reach beyond their own borders to commit acts of oppression including in the united states. this is an appalling example of the government of iran creating trans national violence. >> officials say the man is at large, abroad. they say he offered a second job for the assassin. officials say bolton, former secretary of state mike pompeo, former iran envoy brian hook have been under threat from iran as a response to the u.s. assassination of soleimani in 2020. in a statement, iran says, america is reentering the failed 2015 nuclear deal will be a seven inflicted wound to ourselves and our closest middle east allies. i remain committed to make sure it does not

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but first up today, the committee will virtually interview robert o'brien.mer national security adviser. he considered resigning post january 6th, ultimately did not. and while he is not a cabinet-level official, he is someone who was known to have talked about invoking the 25th amendment. so clearly that topic is of keen interest to the select committee. we also know earlier this week they interviewed mike pompeo, the former secretary of state. and cnn has learned that the 25th amendment was a topic of conversation. so clearly the committee is trying to learn just how serious those conversations were. and just how concerned were these cabinet-level officials. >> yeah. melanie, thank you so much. clearly the committee hard at work for sure. >> reporter: yeah. >>> next, house majority leader steny hoyer will join us live as the house meets to vote on a groundbreaking health and climate bill. only two things are forever: love and liberty mutual customizing your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. if anyone objects to this marriage... kevin, no! t

this morning former national security adviser robert o'brien testified before the panel. according to two sources familiar with the matter, the committee is expected to hold more hearings next month lester >> kristen welker, thank you. >>> we'll turn to another top story. severe storms on the move this evening in louisiana and mississippi after the historic and deadly flooding in dallas the texas governor declaring a disaster in 23 communities. our blayne alexander is in the flood zone tonight. >> reporter: with more rain in two days than the city typically sees in two months, tonight dallas is facing its second worst flooding in nearly a century >> the building is literally cracking right now. >> reporter: the rain turning roads into rivers leaving dozens of cars stranded one young girl had to be carried to safety when her family's rv flooded. >> this was the first time in 90 years we had this much rain in a 24-hour period >> reporter: vanessa says they had almost no warning the water rose so quickly. >> it was under here but you could not -- you couldn't see the trampol

and pompeo, also plotting to kill mark esper, brian hook and former national security adviser robert o'brien all continue to have round-the-clock security ordered by the biden administration, costing millions a month. tonight iran calle the bolton allegation baseless kate >> andrea mitchell, thank you. >>> potential turning point in ukraine's counteroffensive against russia strike at russian airfield on the crimean peninsula, which russia seized from ukraine back in 2014 one person was killed, as many as nine many as russian warplane destroyed. according to ukrainian forces military has not publicly claimed or denied responsibility. >>> growing concern and criticism tonight over the spread of monkeypox and the white house response, with cases climbing to over 9,000 now vaccines hard to get and some communities are seeing a devastating spike. here's miguel almaguer >> reporter: across the country, the lines still stretch for blocks as the u.s. continues to struggle to vaccinate americans against monkeypox. this as cases now double in counties like los angeles and miami-dade >> monkeypox is se

robert o'brien was traveling on the sixth. i reached him at 4:30 p.m. and told him i was submitting my resignation. he accepted the resignation. but he also asked whether i could stay until he could get back to the white house. and i agreed to that. we both wanted to make sure i was leaving in a responsible way. we still have foreign adversaries to worry about -- hackers, terrorists, nationstates, and i did not want to leave my chair empty given that i was the top national security staff in the white house. so, i ended up staying at my desk through the night. when robert o'brien arrived at the white house the next morning, the morning of the seventh, i with him and left for the last time. rep. kinzinger: you and i share a passion for the national security of our country. can you share with me, what is your view of how january 6 impacted our national security? mr. pottinger: when you have a presidential transition, under the best circumstances, it is a time of vulnerability. it is a time of vulnerability. when you have a contested election, i was certain

robert o'brien, how concerned are you with what is going on with taiwan right now?ese exercises that the communist party of china are engaged with the navy and missile forces are not helpful. they are destabilizing the region. they are using pelosi's visit to taiwan, she can go everywhere she wants. they are using that visit to further their plans to coerce taiwan in a reunification they have no interest in. >> the missile trails are visible from taiwan which people believe is a warning to the taiwan leaders. here's what rubio said this morning. >> part is to send a clear signal to leaders in taiwan. that is, if we take you by force you won't be able to stop us. you might as well as negotiate with us the terms of your surrender. >> do you think that's the chinese game? >> they would love to coerce taiwan into giving up without a fight. they saw what happened with ukraine and the tough time vladimir putin has it. i think the taiwanese will fight like heck like the ukrainians have. taiwan is critical to our will being. they control 95% of the computer chips we rely on

, on the same topic, potential violence on january 6. >> i received a call from robert o'brien, that national security advisor. he had asked if he could speak with mr. meadows about potential violence that he was hearing about potentially happening on the hill on january 6. i asked if he had connected with tony, because he had a conversation with him, mark, about that topic. robert said, i will talk to tony. then i don't know if robert ever connected with mark about the issue. >> ms. hutchinson, can you describe to us tony's responsibilities as deputy chief of staff? >> the deputy chief of staff at the white house is arguably one of the most important positions somebody can hold. they are in charge of all security protocol for the campus and all presidential protect ees. anything that requires security for any individual that has presidential protection, for the chief of staff, or the national security advisor, as well as the vice president's team, too, tony would oversee all of that he was a conduit between white house staff and the secret service. >> thank you. he also describes a

what i hope is that -- i will -- i listen to robert o'brien earlier.aid we have a group of savvy, experience, tough negotiators and this of those diplomats working to try to get esther whalen out of there and to try to get griner out of there and i pray that they do. but when an american is wrongfully detained in russia, i want her home be regardless of her political views. >> jesse: i blame the agent because she should never have gone to russia a week before they invaded ukraine and her agent is in charge of her and should know what to do into situation like, i would not go to china right now. i would not go to china ever. i when there right now because i do want to be some political bargaining chip and that is what she is now. >> fox will -- >> that is -- [overlapping speakers] >> -- all the way through to connecticut. the agent also has to explain to her, if you're going to go, which she should not don't bring drug paraphernalia. this is -- and if she has to go to make money, you are the agent. get her a better gig in a country besides russia. this

and robert o'brien is set to appear for a virtual interview on friday. this is important because the committee has been honing in especially when it comes to the cabinet officials about the efforts to use the 25th amendment to remove trump from office. we know elaine chao and betsy devos both explored removing him from office. it became clear made mike pence would not go along with it, and so both tendered their resignations on january 7. but this is an indication that the committee is still working quietly behind the scenes to get information from new witnesses. sara murray, cnn, washington. >> those new witnesses do not include members of the secret service and some say that they still may be protecting donald trump. we're learned that the watchdog buried a memo about missing text messages from the day of the capitol attack, texts we later learned had been erased. officials from the inspector general's office say they prepared a memo on how the secret service deliberately stole it into the agency's, as on january 6. but after the report was sent to the

january six house select committee just interviewed trump's wartime national security adviser, robert o'brien. the new york times reports that the panel interviewed him for several hours, according to two people familiar with the committee work. let's welcome philip rucker, pulitzer prize deputy national editor at the washington post, melissa murray of nyu law law school, she was a law clerk for u.s. and the mayor on the federal bench. before the nomination to the supreme court, and jill wine-banks, she is a former assistant watergate special prosecutor and former general counsel of the army. it is good to see you all. jill, here is when a former director of national intelligence said tonight about the revelations and the national archives letter. >> the classification descriptions that have been assigned to them is very concerning. we'll could an adversary glean from them, particularly about sources, methods and -- this could potentially be a very serious, particularly if it puts human intelligence assets lives at risk. if these documents are not under officially sanctioned control, which th

but we know that robert o'brien, the former national security advisor, was scheduled to appear or testify -- i don't know if it's virtually or not -- today for your committee. has that taken place? >> as you know, andrea, the committee rules don't allow us to discuss witnesses coming in and the like. unless the committee votes and the committee has not voted to release that information. >> okay. we will put a pin in that. don't know if any information that might be picked up from this search warrant might affect the work that you are doing. how is your coordination with the justice department these days? >> we don't coordinate with the justice department. we're a legislative committee. they are prosecutors. we have not played any role in this warrant. i have no idea what they are pursuing. you could come up with theories where there would be overlap or not. we will have to wait and see what the documents show and see whether our committee's jurisdiction would be involved or not. i don't want to speculate. hopefully, this afternoon, we will know what was in the documents and we will see. >

also plotting to kill former defense secretary mark esper, former iran negotiator brian hook and robert o'briencurity adviser. iran says the allegations are baseless. with us to talk about this is jane harman, former president and ceo of the wilson center. it's great to see you. let's talk about this alleged plot points to the islamic revolutionary guard, which is especially the iranian government. >> the terror group sanctioned by the iranian government, right. it's the iranian government. during the trump administration, the head of the guard was assassinated and this plot was borne then. on the first anniversary, late last year, a number of these people became targets. what's interesting, first of all, seems to me is not only the justice department indictment carefully drawn and explained by assistant attorney general in charge of national security, but also the people who have been criticizing the justice department the last 48 hours over the trumpgate, the boxes from mar-a-lago, are silent here and are realizing how careful both the fbi and the justice department have been in this case. i

iran negotiator brian hook and bolton's successor robert o'brien, a person familiar telling nbc news.n bolton joins me now. ambassador bolton, former national security advisor, we're glad you are here. >> so am i. >> safely here. let's talk about this plot. when were you first aware? >> i was told by the fbi in the spring roughly 2020, through the fbi's duty to warn procedure, which is for americans threatened by foreign governments or foreign sources. i received a series of these duty to warn notices going through 2020 into 2021, until close to thanksgiving in 2021 at a meeting at the fbi headquarters, a large meeting, i might say, where they told me how serious it was. that's when i suggested that perhaps since it stemmed from my days in the government, they might want to consider getting the secret service involved. i'm certainly aware of the general outlines for a long time. i had not seen the charging document that was unsealed tuesday and many of the details in it were new to me. >> when you left as national security advisor, up until that time, in the fall of 2020, as i remembe

secretary of state mike pompeo, former iran envoy brian hook and former national security adviser robert o'briena response to the u.s. assassination of quds force general kassem soleimani in early 2020. the u.s. government has provided security for the former officials. >> it's a big stress. it's a lot of cost. the last thing we should be doing is negotiating with a regime that's planning to do that. >> the biden administration has tried to resurrect a nuclear agreement with iran arguing it's the most effective way of preventing iran from producing a nuclear weapon. in march, a top state department official denied the administration was resisting indictments for these types of threats to sooth negotiations with iran. >> but nothing is being held back? >> nothing is being held back. we are going to protect americans wherever they are, however we can. >> two weeks ago, white house middle east adviser bret mcguirk said it was highly unlikely the u.s. and iran would revive a nuclear agreement any time soon. >> in a statement, bolton thanked the justice department, fbi, and the secret service for pro

and we have also just learned that robert o'brien, who served as trump's national security adviser, he was scheduled to meet with the january 6th select committee today. that's according to a source. and you know, o'brien will be just the latest cabinet official to be interviewed by the committee. as they prepare for more public hearings in september and as they continue to investigate those conversations between cabinet members about potentially invoking the 25th amendment to force trump from office in those crucial days after january 6th. alex. >> thank you so much for that report. stay with us, we're being joined now by more of our legal and law enforcement experts. thank you all for joining me. there's much to discuss. dave, i want to go to you first. the national archives wanted a damage assessment on the nearly 700 pages of classified documents, and that was only documents that were seized in january. so this letter from the national archives, what stands out to you? and what more does it tell us? >> it tells us a lot, alex. first, it undermines trump's narrative that he was coop

. >> and meanwhile, we have just learned from our team on the hill that robert o'brien, who served as trump's national security adviser, he is scheduled to meet with the january 6th select committee today. that's according to a source. and o'brien will be the latest cabinet official to be interviewed by the committee, as they prepare for more public hearings in september and as they continue to investigate conversations between cabinet members about potentially invoking the 25th amendment to force trump from office in those days after january 6th. jake. >> jessica schnyder, thanks so much. here to discuss, kaitlan collins, phil mudd, and former assistant u.s. attorney kim wehle. it's so odd to hear donald trump describe the fbi conducting a lawful search as a break-in. that's not what a break-in is. but i guess we're in the upside down here. phil, let's start with the national archives security concerns. the letter says that the materials included documents, quote, top secret and special access program materials. translate that for us. what does that mean, and what kind of materials c

and cnn has learned that robert o'brien who served as trump's national security adviser, he met with the january 6th elect committee on tuesday. that's according to a source. now brian is a latest cabinet official to be interviewed by the committee as they provide more public hearings in september. and they continue to investigate conversation between kaplan members about potentially invoking the 25th amendment to force trump from office in those days after january 6th. jessica schneider, cnn, washington. but >> still to come here on cnn, a memorial service calls for the daughter of putin ally. as russia pledged to hold those responsible for the death accountable. details on that, in a moment. it works naturally with the water in your body to unblock your gut. ...free your gut. and yourur mood will follow. ♪ add downy to your wash for all the freshness and softness of home. evenhen you're not at home. feel the difference with downy. so i climbed into the cab, and then i settled down inside♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man ♪ ♪ of travel i've had my share, man

supposed to be somebody, typically at the national security, that is john bolton's office, or robert o'brien's office, that's supposed to track those documents. so the large number of documents doesn't necessarily get my attention. again, it is the small number of tssci and special access documents that has me scratching my head. >> yeah. also i want to ask you about this lawsuit that trump's team filed asking for a special master to review the documents that were taken in the fbi search of mar-a-lago. what do you think of this request? >> it doesn't surprise me. it telegraphs the trump team doesn't trust the fbi. keep in mind, if you put your trump hat on and look at this through his perspective this is the same fbi that presented false information about him to a judge as part of a fisa court investigation into the -- or surveillance of the 2016 trump campaign. there is some very bad blood between the fbi and president trump. so for them to say, look, we don't want the filter team, which is an internal team to the fbi going through these documents, we want an independent third party master. w

. >> and you did speak with the former national security advisor, robert o'brien, so lots more to comeswoman zoe lofgren, thank you for joining us this evening. >> you bet. >>> coming up, warnings of a radiation catastrophe in ukraine. president zelenskyy says that russia is putting the entire world at risk after a massive nuclear plant occupied by kremlin forces loses power twice. that's coming up. ♪ from boston. ♪ itit means, “ok-to-beer-fest”. another sam octoberfest? nein.. make it ten! i i like this guy. (cheers) thinkorswim® by td ameritrade is more than a trading platform. it's an entire trading experience. that pushes you to be even better. and just might change how you trade—forever. because once you experience thinkorswim® by td ameritrade ♪ there's no going back. joe biden and democrats in congress just passed a law to lower the cost of medicine. the inflation reduction act caps the cost of insulin at $35 a month for senrs. in two seconds, a vacationer will say... yeah, i'm going to live here. only to realize... what if i can't sell my place? ♪ don't worry. sell it directly

they're actually doing it with the former national security adviser to the trump administration robert o'brien. he was expected to be meeting with the committee this morning according to two sources now talking to us. it presents the larger picture, that a, the committee is still working despite the fact that we are not in the period of public hearings, not right now. they're on a temporary pause that we expect to pick up in september. but also, it shows how they're using this time, having laid out for viewers and people following the hearings the timeline that led up to january 6th, but now, potentially detailing what was happening after the 6th, specifically in the highest echelons of the trump administration as they tked to not just o'brien, but people like former transportation secretary elaine cho and others in that orbit. mike pompeo, the secretary of state. all people who could detail from different angles, cho left the administration after the 6th while mike pompeo remains a stedfast ally, detailing the ways the cabinet may have been talking about removing the president from office fro

january 6th hearing so far, but by talking to people like the former national security adviser robert o'brienretary elaine cho, married to senator mitch mcconnell, they're starting to get into the parts of the administration that may have been agitating against the former president because of the role he played in fomenting the insurrection on january 6th. it does give us a little bit of a road map, and it also goes to show just because we're not seeing their work, doesn't mean they aren't working during the august down time. >> that is for sure. ali vitali, our capitol hill correspondent and author of "electable" out this week, we've been crushed with breaking news, but give us in ten seconds the pitch why folks should read it. >> it's about why we haven't had a female president yet. it jumps off 2020 but seeks to show us that there have been so many women who have run before and they all are electable, if voters vote for them. women win if you elect them. hallie. >> also working in her off hours as well, appreciate it. thank you. >>> coming up, we told you how far president biden is going t

transportation secretary elaine chao and set to meet with trump's former national security adviser robert o'brienso what's going on there? >> well, chao is significant because she was obviously a member of the cabinet, left the post on january 7th and was among several cabinet members who explored the idea of invoking the 25th amendment. sources have also said that o brian was involved in high-level discussions about the 25th amendment immediately following january 6th, but in a statement to cnn he says that's not true. he says he was not involved at any time in discussions about invoking the 25th amendment. but, certainly that is something that the committee will ask. he's expected to meet with them virtually today. >> we'll see what he tells the committee maybe if we learn. whitney wild, thank you very much for that. >>> the cdc issuing brand new covid guidelines about testing and social distancing. what you need to know about sending your kids back to school. >>> a grim statement from the family of actress of anne heche following your fiery car crash. we'll have an update on her condition ahea

. >>> cnn learned later today former national security adviser robert o'brien is going to appear virtuallyore the january 6th committee investigating the insurrection. he's not the only former trump official cooperating with the panel. former transportation secretary elaine chao recently sat for an interview. we just learned that. also former education secretary betsy devos has been in talks with the committee about potential testimony as well. also new details this morning about how the committee could have found out about the missing secret service text messages from those key dates around the insurrection over the summer. cnn law enforcement correspondent whitney wild is reporting on this. what more do we know on that front, the secret service text front? >> there is a lot of information coming out to suggest that inspector general investigators knew a lot more and were prepared to tell congress a lot more about the roadblocks they were encountering as they were trying to get really crucial detail out of the secret service. this is according to a draft memo that was obtained by the proj

she's the former trump education secretary as well as robert o'brien.national security adviser. he's scheduled for a virtual appearance before the committee tomorrow. one of the things they really wanted to hear from these folks is what the discussions were like around the 25th amendment. we know elaine chao and betsy devos were potentially removing trump from office and both of them submitted their resignation. >> it gives an opportunity for cabinet members to vote and decide if a sitting president should leave office. >> exactly. they were essentially told that mike pence was not going to go along with it and it was unlikely to succeed and they both tended their resignations. >> any other cabinet members about to testify as well before the committee? >> what's sort of stunning is the number of cabinet members and senior officials who already have and we've seen steve mnuchin and eugene scalia, and the former labor secretary and john ratcliffe, former director of national intelligence. he's still in discussions about potentially appearing and he dealt

secretary of state, mike pompeo, former iran on by brian moore, former national-security advisor, robert o'brienm iran as a response to the u.s. assassination of qassem soleimani in early 2020. the u.s. government has provided security for the official spec speak with a big stress because a lot of cost in the last thing we should be doing is negotiating with a regime that is planning to do that because the biden administration has tried to resurrect a nuclear agreement with iran, giving it the most effective way of preventing iran from producing a nuclear weapon. in march, a top state department official denied the administration was visiting indictments for these types of threats to sue the negotiations with iran. >> nothing is being held back because nothing is being held back there, we're going to protect americans wherever they are, however we can take us >> two weeks ago, white house middle east advisor pat mcgirt said it was highly unlikely the u.s. and iran would revive a nuclear agreement anytime soon. in a statement, bolton thank the justice department, fbi and secret service for protec

the committee is set to speak with former national security adviser robert o'brien, according to a sourcehe source confirmed the committee is trying to learn if cabinet members discussed removing the former president from office, with the 25th amendment. the committee has spoken to former transportation secretary earlier this month. she resigned from her position the day after the riot. and she is married to senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. the committee is gearing up for another round of public hearings starting next month. attorney general merrick garland's comments yesterday on the search of mar-a-lago have not tamped down the extreme rhetoric from some of trump's most loyal supporters. across conservative media yesterday, allies of the former president continued to rail against the justice department and direct blame on their usual targets. >> the d.o.j. and fbi are supposed to be above politics, but if you just look at the targeted actions against the president, at the same time you have people like hillary clinton, hunter biden, and the leaker of the dobbs draft decision, wal

and robert o'brien, trump's former national security adviser, is set to be interviewed by the committeettee has been focused on the discussions about the 25th amendment. chow and vause had discussions about the 25th amendment and both of those women re-zioned. >> obviously chow and devos are two of the members that engaged with the committee. do we know the others? >> it's stunning the amount of information they've been able to get out of high level cabinet officials. we know mike pompeo appeared before the committee this week. treasury secretary steve mnuchin has appeared before the committee. jeff rerosen, former acting attorney general, has appeared. even the former labor secretary appeared before the committee and said he encouraged donald trump to concede after the election results were clear. i think they're getting to these sincere misgivings around the trump administration around january 6th and anymore they can learn about how serious these conversations were about trying to remove trump from office using the 25th amendment. >> i spoke about the investigation with congresswoman

. >> and the committee met with former national security adviser robert o'brien earlier this week.t you talked with him about discussions about rump cabinet officials, regarding the 25th amendment possibly removing trump from office? >> well, the rules don't allow us to discuss the content of these interviews, but i think some of our witnesses have indicated that we did have discussions and questions about the 25th amendment. obviously, we know the 25th amendment was not invoked. so one of the issues that we're looking at, in the constitution, it says that it should be the vice president and the cabinet or such other body as the congress may through law establish. should we look at that? are there actually procedures in place? so that's a line of inquiry that's important, constitutionally. and we don't know for sure where it leads us. but learning about the procedures or lack thereof is also instructive. >> congresswoman, former vice president mike pence said earlier this month he would consider an invitation to come before the committee if asked. why haven't you asked him yet? >>

robert o'brien will appear virtually before the committee today. >>> the cdc is ending some of its covid others and the guidance to quarantine people exposed to the virus. it also eliminated the need for a test to stay in school after potential exposure. >>> the ukrainian operator of the zaporizhzhia power plant says nearby strikes from russia are threatening their operations and may violate radiation standards because of the damage. this after the u.n. called for inspection and demilitarized zone around the plant. >>> and anne heche's family do not expect her to survive her injuries from last week's car crash. she has a severe brain injury and is being kept on life support to see if her organs can be donated. >> more on those stories all day on cnn and cnn.com and don't forget to download the "5 things" podcast every morning. >>> there are new details this morning about a gunman who was killed by police after trying to storm an fbi field office in ohio. what he is suspected of posting online about killing agents there. we're carvana the company who invented car vending machines anand bu

the latest was former national security adviser robert o'brien which the times said lasted several hourss asked ex-secretary of state mike pompeo in his testimony earlier this month, this, quote, about the former president's state of mind around the time of the attack, his fitness for office and discussions that he reportedly had with treasury secretary steve mnuchin about the possibility of invoking the 25th amendment after the attack. joining us now, luke broadwater, "new york times" congressional reporter, and dana milbank, "washington post" opinion columnist and the author of the new book "the destructionist: the 25-year crackup of the republican party", luke first to you in this reporting. i know that just because it's quiet in terms of public hearing, doesn't mean it's quiet for the committee or for you, so tell us what they've been looking into. >> right, the january 6th committee has been sort of out of the headlines for a little while, partially because there's been so much focus on the justice department and the search at mar-a-lago. but they have been quietly working behind th

tuesday the committee interviewed robert o'brien, trump's former national security adviser, about cabinet discussions on whether to invoke the 25th amendment to remove donald trump from office. committee chair bennie thompson says investigators have spoken to, quote, pretty much every single person in the cabinet. for the most part they have all indicated a willingness to talk to the committee. joining me now is congressman madeleine dean. vice chair of the judiciary and financial committees. and former house impeachment manager. welcome, congresswoman. before we get into the january 6th discussion, what is your reaction to what we are learning about the documents that we recovered from mar-a-lago? >> good morning michael. it's a real privilege to be on with you so thank you for inviting me. i have to tell you, unlike your other two guests i did print out the whole thing. i am a preacher. of paper. i know i put my printer at risk. but it is worth a reads. for what is there, the probable cause and the very thoughtful arguments towards probable cause. of course, the identification of the do