mountain or something like that but that's all that has already been incorporated what about that robert o. energy is subsidized by somebody and it's almost always the taxpayer. well that's true. yes there there's no such thing as a free market that's certainly true in the energy business but when it comes to the growth of renewables in places like china if you look at what has happened here in the u.s. and in fact if you look at the clean energy which is the clean energy mechanism that was mandated under some of these u.n. rules and and then go back and look at china it's clear that that system has been gamed and the chinese have been among the best at collecting these subsidies to build wind projects that some of which are not even connected to the grid so this idea that somehow investment in renewables is leading the world that this is where the world is going the world is going in chasing renewables in most of these countries simply because of subsidies and mandates it's not because the market is for is is is is saying this is the best option benjamin and she gave us one number before of somet