marcus papadopoulos in london he's the editor of politics first magazine also in london we have robert oulds he used to director of the bruges group and in washington we crossed to ariel cohen he is a senior fellow in russian and eurasian studies and international energy security at the heritage foundation or a gentleman crosstalk rules in fact that means you can jump in anytime you want and i very much encourage it marcus if i go to you first in london i've been watching the pictures coming out of care for the last day and a half this looks like a armed insurrection this looks like an organized coup against the government in kiev and we have we have to point out here that the government in kiev mr unico which has reached out to the opposition numerous times over the last two weeks but still the violence continues and i want to make it very clear there is violence on both sides right now markets with what is your reaction. can i just say first of all pate.

the bruges group think tank joins us now live to talk more about plans to fix its finances mr robert oulds welcome to our team nice to see here so just tell us how badly ukraine's economy has been damaged by the unrest there. the problems of the largely created in ukraine by western european union and united states involvement a really seriously destabilize ukraine's economy and direct investment. government debt is now reduced to junk status people will not be wanting to invest in ukraine getting its economy moving again there's been serious political turmoil and that is never a good situation for encouraging investment ukraine has some very serious challenges ahead the collapse of the value of its carbon see will lead to high inflation things are not looking good at all and we know that ukraine's interim leaders say there are no funds left in the budget how can they fill the hole. while there was originally an offer form washer to provide fifteen billion towards me they would have been there three billion has already been paid or was going to reduce the cost of gas by as much as thirty f

robert downey jr.'s made $50 million and myuestion about the -- go down to wall street, these investment bankers, these guys ouldl because they took this country damn ne into a depression and yet they get 50, 20, 50, $100 million in bonuses. these guys were never perped walk. >> all because the bad businessmen have the help of the government. >> how many times have i heard president obama say, look, a ceo makes 200 times what the average worker makes. that's vilifying the ceo a yet "the new york times" said leonardo dicaprio he deserves 50 million bucks. >> do you think the ceos who have bad years lose wages? >> i don't know. >> they don't. >> i wish we had more time. we've got to jump. more time would be great, wink, wink. thank you all for joining us this week. >>> coming up, look out the governme is looking to observe tv newsrooms. ♪ [ chicken caws ] [ male announcer ] when your favorite food starts a fight, fight back fast with tums. eartburn relief that neutralizes acid on contact and goes to work in seconds. ♪ tum, tum tum tum tums! eartburn relief that neutralizes acid on contact (voseeker of the sublime.