but to discuss this issue with joint live now by a civil rights, it's any roberts patillo roberts, welcome to the program. now tell us what was your reaction to show t being convicted on all counts to do expect this result will be resolved. but for most legal observers, it's understand that just all these did represent himself in the trial of the 1st trial into a hung jury. almost the case was there, as has been said before, $95.00 per cubic inches in federal court to go to trial in the been a conviction defense do not take you to trial unless they think they have a sure park is against you. so do you think the fact that he represented himself affected the outcome was complemented by the judge on, on how he performed? oh, absolutely. as an attorney, i can say that the best performing layperson still will often like much of the skill needed to research a case, to analyze, to write the proper motions, and to find the best defense. very difficult at that one. so particularly in federal court of all the federal rules and procedures that are needed. i do think that that probably led into the di

russian pilot konstantin era sankoh was traded for us. national trevor read civil rights attorney robert patillo told us that the reason the u. s. is looking to strike a deal is because of the public outcry for brittany griner to be released. what we've seen is that there's been social media outcry pushing for the release of miss griner personal every status, of course, is part of it being a member of the african american community and a member of the l. g. b, t, q, community, here, america. and lead to many people spinning place and lot of emphasis on her release . i think the, the russian side actually getting more from this deal. brittany greiner, the q, so not drug trafficking, but according to her testimony today in court. absolutely. for getting a cartridge that belongs to a vapor and her bag that was, that was illegal in russia. we spent the sovereignty of fair nations, i think, with a big difference between that and being a arms dealer as mr. about working with. so i think russia comes out on the better end of this tray, but given the nature of the publicity around this, this is change.

opposite to be true, so we invite you to listen in on the arguments from civil rights attorney robert patillonse attorney bob bianchi. gentlemen, welcome back peered >> thanks, shannon. >> shannon: this might be a matter of semantics exactly how these disclosures are worded, but let's start with exhibit. it says from axios, a new lawsuit alleges the popular speaking assistant including in the seattle-based tech giant echo and other smart speakers is collecting voice data from unwitting customers that amazon then uses to target ads at them. if the lawsuit claims are accurate, tens of millions of american households, some with multiple smart speakers, our vulnerable to unwitting ad targeting brought into a device in their homes. robert? >> look, i have my amazon and alexa type thing here, we all make an agreement with these tech corporations that we are exchanging a small bit of our privacy for continued use of them. we all know and understand it. what amazon is arguing is we are not recording your voice. we are not -- there is no one's listening and all of your conversations, we are not record