robert phillips and was her preferred. the man she r called her husband and rudolph was her and got demoted.he she would her time pitting these two men against each other. he would say i can't take this woman anymore as she did this and she did that and need to help me and get me back to germany and get me away from thisth line. their memoirs were contradictory. both of them report on how rudolph lawrence would show up and they -- describe the behavior he was enduring and hancock had he had written letters to haunt -- hancock. there are a couple of sources for that but i don't know why he put up with her for so long. that's one of the mysteries. there's a recurring theme in the book and how they survived in different ways. you think these characters were doomed from the start or do you think they ever had a real chance of reaching the utopia they wanted so desperately? >> that's a very goodi question. the people whoer ride their for the purest reasons have the best chance and they are the ones without giving any spoilers,

rudolf lawrence and robert phillips and robert phillips and was sort of her preferred lover, you know, the man she called her husband, rudolf lawrence, had been her business partner, paris, and her lover. but got demoted. and, you know, she would she would spend her time pitting these two men against each other. and rudolf lawrence, a lot of that information comes from and margaret memoirs because rudolf would show up at their at their various residences and like i can't take this woman anymore. she did this, she did that and he'd go to the other place and say, oh, my god, you've got to help. let me stay here. i need to get back to germany, get me away from this woman. so the of them, their memoirs were contradictory a lot of ways, but both of them do report on how rudolf lawrence would show up, describe the behavior that he was enduring. and so a lot of that was and also with george allan hancock, he had written letters to hancock about that. and he and the men of hancock's entourage also witnessed lot of it. so there were a couple of sources that but i don't know why he put up for i

i'm joined by sir robert buckland, former conservative mp and former conservative mp and former lord chancellor, and joe phillipsjournalist and former press secretary to paddy ashdown. madeleine, let's start with you. i you know, i've just gone through the list there, medium and long term interest rates rising, inflation going up, the pound going down, growth dead. and we've got some more figures coming out tomorrow haven't we. >> yes. there will be more inflation figures covering november coming out tomorrow. but it's clear that the market is expecting those to be less positive than we've seen in the inflation figures recently. everyone will remember, of course, that after liz truss's mini—budget, whether or not you believe that it was caused by the mini—budget, inflation rates jumped very high, causing a lot of mortgage pain for people. it's not looking like it's going to jump that high again, but we are expecting a little uptick. >> why do you say that? it's not very far away is it. it's i mean it's more of a slow motion thing than it was. >> yeah. it's definitely not a pretty picture at the moment. and there