senate -- >> guest: this i far from an original point, and it was made most eloquently, i think, by robert putnam, harvard sociologist. he wrote a book called "bowling alone" and it's how we're all just becoming more and more individualistic. we're becoming more and more turned in on ourselves, and hence the title. we're not even -- we don't even belong to bowling leagues, we go bowling alone. that was the title of the book. and i believe that is true here in washington, as well as throughout the country. throughout the country, we're sitting in front of our television sets, we're driving our cars, there is the bigger -- the country, it seems, the less we are into interpersonal relationships, and i believe this is also true in the senate, where you served and where i served, because there was social interaction among members of the senate. we lived here. most of us. our families knew each other. our spouses knew each other. we knew each other's children and in each other's homes, and if you have that kind of interpersonal connection with people, it's really easier to work things out politically,