seat and jenny who doesn't have any kids said we had to come watch our kids and so that phrase, robert putnam used that as the title of one of his book in duisburg the kids are our kids to everybody. these are the two models. how is chevy chase like duisburg or like salt lake city for these other conservative religious places they both have very strong institutions of civil society . whether it's chevy chase country club in the sports teams there or the first reformed church and first christian reformed church or our home christian ministries which one out of all these churches together for the christian schools or public schools, the strong religious communities and the elite get good outcomes not because of government programs they run but because they have a strong institution of civil society so what is the plight of the working class where they are struggling? it's that they lack those institutions. alienation is the plight of middle america.we talk about the factory shutting down and that's a factor of the real problem is the church is closing down. i talked about all the secular instit

the research that initially establishes is actually by robert putnam who wrote bowling alone. so he was subsequently doing additional work. and what he found was when you multiethnic communities come that social trust became very low. it's not just that one ethnicity did not trust another ethnicity. trust within the ethnicities also declined. and that this was a very consistent finding and it at sentencing a lot of replication. i have seen a couple of articles that seem some glimmers of hope, that some communities -- it is not as universal as was initially thought. the bulk of the literature continues to say this seems to be a built-in problem. there are lots of reasons that it shouldn't surprise us but it's the problem in a multiethnic country. >> it's much less of a problem in very affluent communities because it is a kind of come if you socialize the college anywhere, you have a lot -- first of all your more likely to have a common language but you also just have that, there is globally a fairly common college ethos. that's that with the bulk of immigration in the united st