robert rauschenberg among friends. >> we wanted to suggest that through rauschenberg's career that you could celebrate creativity and conversation, of course, he collaborates more than almost anyone else, you know. he is always pulling people into his projects and finding an enter lock for in a way to create new works with someone else .. so we want people to feel tha that openness well. >> rose: the supreme court on the travel ban, white house chief office staff on the presidency, and leah dickerman on robert rauschenberg when we continue. funding for charlie rose is provided by the >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: we begin this evening with the supreme court. the justices agreed to uphold a limited version of president trump's travel ban from earlier this year. the order prevents travelers from six primarily muslim countries to enter the united states,

here is an interview in 1997 in which i talked to robert rauschenberg about jasper johns.ber, this was 20 years ago. >> where did you meet jasper johns? what influence did you think you had on each other? >> i think our main influence was that we were the only two people that were not trying to do abstract expressionism. we were the only two people doing something else. we were both an audience of one to each other's work. [laughter] >> a great friendship. >> oh, very. i think the thing that made us get along was the fact that we were so different ourselves. i would travel to streets and get everything, and he would shut the windows. we had different studios, that was all right. i spent my time trying to mimic what i saw outdoors. and he tried to create what he felt in his head. i was very tempted to work like de kooning. i would have loved to have done rothkos, and pollocks. but my respect for their view -- if there is a legacy, i am very happy i can have as enviable a point of view as these people that i love so much. charlie: he says it well enough, doesn't he? leah: he