. >> that decision would be made by robert ray, an experienced independent-counsel member and, unlike prosecutor. >> i had been a federal prosecutor in the u.s. attorney's office for the southern disctrict of new york. >> i'm just very pleased that the special division, i think, very wisely, chose a career prosecutor, and i think that's going to help de-politicize all this. i certainly hope that it does. >> tasked with concluding several ongoing cases, ray quickly got down to business. >> the independent counsel is seriously investigating whether to indict president clinton after he leaves office. robert ray is said to be looking into the same issues that were involved in the impeachment case. >> the second most important mandate, of course, was the requirement that final reports be filed with regard to all of the then-pending investigations. >> it has been about 7 years now since the white house travel office staff was fired. independent counsel robert ray announced the evidence was not strong enough to warrant charges. >> my job, under the statute, was to promptly conclude the inves

robert ray is looking at the issues involved in the impeachment case. >> the second most important mandaterement that final report be filed with regard to all of the then pending investigations. >> it has been 7 years since the white house staff was firearm at ray announced the evidence did not warrant charges. >> my job under the statute was to probably conclude the investigation but that meant there was a significant remaining thing to be done, releasing final reports on whitewater, the travel office, lewinsky. >> is reports were printed the president was hit with penalties from a surprising source, the arkansas supreme court. a disciplinary committee of the court recommended president clinton be disbarred due to misconduct and apologize case but it would be up to the new independent counsel to determine how much president clinton would give up. >> the biggest decision to be made was whether the president would face obstruction of justice and perjury charges 20 left office. what do you look for when you trade? i want free access to research. yep, td ameritrade's got that. free access to

robert ray is a former whitewater independent counsel and former federal prosecutor. having you want to break these things down. let's begin with the basics here, and whether what dershowitz is looking at, what some call process crimes -- would you make of it? >> has a point about that. they are processed truthful statements, obstruction of justice, and perjury. ordinarily, prosecutors charge those crimes in conjunction with what person was lying about or obstructing about, and is with the other about is a violation of law itself? we should be the core of the mandate. so we are talking about ancillary crimes, which doesn't mean they are any less important. but they are ancillary to the core mandate that robert mueller was appointed to investigate. i think what people should be more concerned about is an endless investigation that doesn't ultimately get us to the objective. in other words, process crimes are just a means toward an end. the core of the mandate is, was their illegal activity in connection with the term campaign relative could tell mike to collusion and c

he wouldn't rely on the uncorroborated word of a convicted perjurer. >> harris: robert ray, thank you for coming in. we appreciate it. president trump urging democrats to go around speaker pelosi to negotiate an end to the shutdown. what any of them break rank? i will talk with a top democrat senator next. plus, 21 years old -- a man now under arrest accused of plotting to attack the white house and other federal buildings in washington. a live report ahead. ♪ the best simple salad ever? heart-healthy california walnuts. the best simple pasta ever? california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? great tasting, heart-healthy california walnuts. so simple, so good. get the recipes at walnuts.org. reach her health goals! i'm in! but first... shelfie! the great-tasting nutrition of ensure. with up to 30 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals! ensure. for strength and energy. ensure. if these packs have the same number of bladder leak pads, i bet you think bigger is better. actually, it's bulkier. always discreet quickly turns liquid to gel, for drier protection that's a lot less b

robert ray, always good to have you. >> always good to be with you harris.t was a pleasure. >> harris: happy new year. >> and to you. >> harris: of emotions running high on both sides of the political aisle as the president steps of his demands for border security. thousands of migrants from south america way to cross into the united states. chief correspondent jonathan hunt is live at the u.s.-mexico border in california, with quite a story. jonathan? >> harris, good afternoon to you. those thousands of migrants from both sides of america are essentially into shelters here. across the board in tijuana. they were watching with great interest last night in those shelters, as president trump addressed what he called a humanitarian and security crisis. for the most part, those migrants did not like what they heard. listen here. >> translator: i don't know what he means by saying we are a danger to this country, when most are migrants working over there. >> translator: i hope his heart softens to give us a chance, because we are not going to steal from him. we w

for retired rear admiral robert ray he wanted a way to check on his elderly family members and help othersive far away and those of dull children want to take care of mom and dad and there is technology available to do a the problem is most of the time they don't know about the technology. >> so he started blue star senior tech, company that finds and sells senior approved gadgets. from simple video systems to keeping in touch with family, electronic pillboxes to prevent accidental overdoses, wearables for detecting falls and cooking devices to shut off forgotten stokes. >> technology has to add value. has to be simple and has to be reasonably inexpensive. those are three requirements. >> all to keep older folks safer like regina brown who has trouble walking and navigating tight spots in her home. >> i need some assistance getting off the floor. >> raise company is focused on helping former servicemembers because as dana cooper from veterans affairs says, vets often age faster than the average person. >> our older population is older at a younger age. we want to make sure each veteran is

welcome robert ray, who has investigated the whitewater scandal and the white house travel controversym jefferson kill -- clinton. welcome back, bob -- bob, good to have you here. the memo that was written by bill barr specifically reflects obstruction of justice issues. he has now written a letter to lindsey graham saying that he thinks it should go forward. bob: to be clear, obstruction of justice as a criminal offense, not to say that bob mueller wouldn't have cause to investigate matters within this mandate that might be well of interest to the congress in a report determining whether or not it pays for a peaceful proceeding to begin. bill barr is talking exclusively about whether or not -- and i had commented about this at the time, how a president could have been deemed to commit instruction of justice regarding the fbi director personnel replacement. much broaderare issues that apparently bob mueller is taking a look at the go well beyond obstruction allegations. is there a danger that the other , couldght be surprised he say too much in committee? today he said it was inconceiv

. >> harris: so, capri, robert ray -- who was special counsel, and took over for kenneth starr with the clinton investigation -- told me on set yesterday that what it's all about is if they find there is no there there we need to move on. in this could be rubbing a brother shortly. and you say? >> capri: it's time for us to get back to work. let's hope that's the case. to speak to what ron just said, i think this is where a lot of democrats are coming from. for every indictment -- and i want to see clearly, i'm not somebody jumping up and down like many democrats. i think the process needs to take its course. but what ron wyden is saying, essentially, is that with each one of these indictments it's showing some sort of a pattern because it's all generally about lying under oath. the question is, where they lying under oath? is there something they are specifically covering up? but to take it one step further, it's because they're covering up collusion -- we don't know that. >> harris: katie, why they are lying and also who is lying? also, could the be the investigation of the weights be

i spoke with robert ray on my show last week, and of course, he took over for kenneth starr at the endinton investigations. what he said is that there is a responsibility to ask him a questions about the mueller investigation. a good attorney would see that and put it in a statement. what did you see today? an attorney who kind of assumed it and was ready for that question. rachel told me, no, it's a port and then again on the record. he said that's what all good attorney's dominic do. >> morgan: are married to one! >> harris: because of the recent criticism. matthew whitaker, part of what they should be writing is the answer so to some of those questions. ray said republicans and democrat should ask them. >> morgan: tomorrow should be a snooze fest. barr is totally qualified. he simply qualified. i think he was at the 20 candidates on the judiciary committee, senator harris, booker potentially, they can't just let the guy through. they will have to make waves. but i don't predict this will be anything like the cavanaugh hearing. what's the alternative? the acting attorney general, who

iowa also mourned the passing of governor robert d ray who's civility, courage and common-sense style of leadership set the highest standard for those who followed. we grieve the passing of congressman bozwell, a proud veteran and public servant, who willingly reached across the aisle on so many issues to make iowa a better place. and three weeks ago, we lost the legendary u.s. senator don colver whose passion, energy, and timeless wit represented iowa. if we've learned anything from the passing of the public servants is this, working together with deep resolve we can achieve more than we ever dreamed possible. last year was another year of significant accomplishments. together we passed the largest income tax ever as part of a ground-breaking tax reform package, a record investment in k-12 schools, achieved collaborative water quality bill, my first bill signed as governor. we protected the sanctity of life, provided affordable health care options to thousands of iowans and by unanimous vote enacted comprehensive health care reform and the future ready iowa act. indeed, it was a hist

robert thomson. quite a variety of posts in most read this morning. number six, interesting, raye of the world's rarest sharks living off the welsh coast. its natural or only established stronghold is in the canary islands however there have been sightings from sinn boats suggesting the somewhat mysterious angel shark is present in welsh waters. and let's scroll down to the most watched. let's stay on an animal theme, two, cat gives dog walkers pause for thought. the plan was obviously intended. this is about nick harding bengal cat cold barry and he likes to ta ke bengal cat cold barry and he likes to take ari for a stroll with a harness in ashtead in surrey which is pretty unusual to see someone walking their cat. barry is and a lwa ys walking their cat. barry is and always on the harness and we are told he doesn't not walk to heal and prefers to dart off after birds. there is a surprise. a cat doing for cats like to do. that's it for today's morning briefing. sport, and now it's time for a roundup with mike. thank you. we start at stamford bridge, where chelsea made it through

rays for new patients without insurance. and yes whenever you're ready to get started, we are too. call 1-800-aspendental today. ♪ >> lisa: welcome back. paul manafort's legal team defying special counsel robertterday. manafort lawyers rejecting mueller's claims that the one time trump campaign chair like to investigators after agreeing to cooperate in a plea deal las. manafort lawyers also accusing mueller of using "unusual tactics" and suggesting prosecutors misinterpreted manafort's honest memory lapses and innocent misstatements as attempts to deceive. he's due in court tomorrow too good for the acquisitions that he lied. meanwhile, a new fox news poll shows 49% of voters now approve of mueller's investigation into the term campaign and russia. and, that a plurality of 46% believe the term campaign coordinated with russia, up several points from a year ago. candidly, i was there with you. would you make of the manafort lawyers 'claim that there was unusual tactics construct we did see mueller go after manafort for things like failure to register as a forte agent. that's rare, especially when a lot of people do it in washington, d.c. >> kennedy: they have to be sweating about some of the s