let's bring in robert ray. thank you, counselor, on a friday night from remote on the job.nk you, sir. >> you're welcome. good to be with you. >> so volker, you're not going to question his credentials, no one from the administration has. one of the few we have not heard the president pillary. he comes forward and says i didn't have anything to do with the biden stuff, i didn't know it was about biden, maybe it's true or isn't. but he puts forward these texts that show multiple trump-friendly officials saying we don't like what's going on here, let's try to soften this, make this not happen this way, expressing concerns, being told it's okay. what does it mean to you? >> it means that the bureaucracy is at work. obvio obviously there are efforts to protect the president. when you say that these are matters are concern, remember the only concern that is relevant for impeachment is that ultimately it has to be a high crime or misdemeanor, so i beg to differ with the trail of, you know, of positions and the shifting positions of democrats about the fact that abuse of power is

david: we are talking with robert ray, former independent counsel.e have had four times in our history we have had house investigation for impeachment, three of them in my lifetime. we have experience with president nixon and president clinton. what happens when congress demands information from the white house and they refused to give it? robert: it depends on your view of the law. some of this is an uncharted territory, but not all of it. when the house acted as a body under an authorized vote of the entire body to open up an impeachment proceeding, that obviously allows a certain amount of flexibility the courts recognize in order for the house to get documents in connection with that proceeding, including grand jury material. the resistance from the justice department and the white house in connection with access to the grand jury material that was during the robert mueller investigation is because there is no impeachment proceeding currently attending. while that may seem to many in the political process as being a distinction without a differen

robert ray? >> i do. i would like to say i hold out hope that that's not going to happen, but i think it's inevitable varied. >> now it's going to be a pylon of things. they have to build their case because this one doesn't look i bad is they initially thought. thank you, guys freight appreciate you coming on tonight . new complications for breaking details coming up about to visi his staff member made to ukrain in august read lives to get home to they use stamps.com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the amazing services of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again! is an urgent appeal from the international fellowship of christians and jews. - [female narrator] right now, in the former soviet union, there are thousands of jewish holocaust survivors trapped in relentless poverty. there's no heat, no electricity, no running water. they

all right, or more whitewater depending council, and doj official, robert ray, i would attempt to tryo understand what the points of the mulvaney press conference was,, i also get the folks that who want the president out of office are going to keep shifting the narrative when it suits them. am i wrong in the way i'm reading this? >> that's exec leg rights, they've also intended that the legal quid pro quo was ultimately about getting a meaningless president trump in exchange for foreign assistance. that's been essentially a third siri tell mike to theory. a contentious press briefing is not the place to be trying to sort out whether there is or is not in a legal quid pro quo, and the clip that you played, mulvaney's answer to the question which was what you just described a quid pro quo, should have been no because it is not. i've been looking at bribery and extortion for the better part of 20 years of my professional life. i can tell you, again, press conferences are not the place for you sort that out. the democrats would have to show that there was a personal benefit derived by pr

. >> robert ray will be back.inal point, the judge from a fisa warrant can hit more devices than just a regular criminal wire tap. it's a powerful thing. >> is powerful for a reason this is in the wake of 9/11 so everybody understands we give that court an enormous amount of power and latitude in order to do what keep us safe and that is beyond simply the mission of dealing with crime once it is happened and prosecuting those who are responsible for. the problem with that, went to start going down that road with the intelligence committee ensuring information across the community divide over to the fbi which has a dual mission now post 9/11, that's a dangerous thing. because if it gets into the hands of people who are politically motivated in order to do damage on the adversaries in the potable process, you are now abusing that process. it's nothing for americans to be concerned about. liz: there's no checks impulses in the fisa. robert ray is going to stay with us. the deafening silence of a media and democrats v

along the way, i will be joined by john eastman, robert ray house judiciary ranking member doug collins. plus, i'm going to explain how congress can actually play a role in stopping this intel and diplomatic bureaucracy from continuing to defy this duly-elected president and presidents in the future. tom fitton, chris swecker are both here on that. also tonight, democrat katie hill resigned after congress found out she was sleeping with two subordinates. so why is the media now painting her as a damsel in distress? s a victim of the vast right-wing conspiracy. does that sound familiar? the can't-miss debate on that a little later on in the show. but first, mcconnell's time to stand and fight. that's the focus of tonight's "angle." the house democrats running -- it's kind of like a mystery impeachment theater. they think they have finally found their star witness. army vet, lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, a purple heart recipient and a white house in fc stanford. we salute vindman service to the country, but that does not insulate him or any member of the armed services from critic

. >> harris: turned to me now, former federal prosecutor robert ray, who served as independent counseluring the whitewater investigation. robert, good to see you today. >> nice to be with you. >> harris: new developments today in terms of democrats now calling for a full vote on the house, and saying what they will do if they don't have the witnesses that they need. i will play a bit of thought but i want to first get your reaction to the news. >> i think there is merit in that. i've been saying for a long time, their position legally in the cases that are pending before most of the district court and the district of columbia would be enhanced if there is an impeachment boast in the house. because it seems to suggest they will have additional factual ammunition to be able to say if the action of the entire body and precedents that will allow them a better argument to get access, among other things, to grand jury material. >> harris: 's of the most vocal voice on this so far is congressman garamendi of california, who called for this for a houseboat, think speaker pelosi definitely has

robert ray, former whitewater independent counsel, robert driscoll, former doj official and harmeet dhillon, attorney and trump 2020 advisory board member. robert, cia officials are smartly lawyering up for "the new york times." who is sweating most tonight? >> i think you already identified some of them. brennan, clapper, comey, and the wild card is i don't know who had knowledge within the justice department at the supervisory level necessary to approve this but if anybody is in that loop that knew of the origins of the steele dossier and political connections and made the decision who was complicit in the decision to not disclose that information to the fisa court, i think what we are anticipating is that folks have potential criminal liability, yes. >> this is when people start getting nervous. as we saw in the situation with paul manafort, the screws are turned on individuals and itit happens a lot. i represented people, it happened to them. and people start coughing up details to avoid jail time correct? >> that's correct. the way this typically works iss you go at the lower-level peo

join me, robert ray, democrats very much controlling narrative here, they have the show, they are not giving republicans access to anything. >> do you see it as a move to change of the narrative? >> i know so you have to, right now congress on recess. if this will continue, as an an inquire is undefined, not a sense where one received from the house. seems fair game if this is real just about politics. then two can play. and there is no reason why the sonat should do when it can to change the mayortive and the -- they call it an immuch am quirey. >> they claim in part they have right to do this in their oversight capacity, but as letter from white house council today to varying committees indicated, you can't have to both ways, you have extra -- the rice to exer size your over right capacity, but is cler based on what the speaker subjected, they don't want to have a vote be they don't want to give republican a write in a bipartisan way to have pubment in the kind wire and it not stonewalling new. that is the press' shorthand way of this this is white house pushing back on behalf of th

. >> harris: it's interesting what you say because robert ray was just here, formally of independenting the clinton time. i said to him off-camera, rudy giuliani, you know what he's doing, and he is making democrats have to kind of coax what are we going to do to answer back on what he said last night? joe biden says take him off the air. >> i think the other casualties of this process may be joe biden. the comfortable sweater everybody wanted is now looking like damaged goods. the democrats are going to have to live with the consequences of that call for some time. >> harris: great to see you both. 2020 democrats elizabeth warren and bernie sanders are willing to fight income equality, but experts say their tax plan would cripple economic growth. ♪ mortgage rates are down! and you could lower your monthly payments right away by calling newday now. you can refinance at newday usa with no income verification, no appraisal, and no points and save over 1,000 dollars a year. lower rates means lower payments. get the most of your va mortgage benefits. refi now at newday usa. refinance now

and robert ray, formerly of the whitewater council and the clintons on all of that back on the days ofachment then, went through it with me everyday off camera. page 8, he said, is troubling for one point. we don't know who congressman 1 is, but it says that one of these guys who knew giuliani, lev parnas, met with congressman 1 and sought his assistance in causing the u.s. government to remove or recall the event-ambassador to ukraine. you see that is problematic, as well? what does it mean? >> these are u.s. citizens, so they have the right to make contributions. they have a right to ask members of congress to look into things. that being said, if they are doing it on behalf of a foreign individual, which is a claim here, either may give a contribution or asking for action. that's where it becomes problematic. we know the u.s. ambassador was removed, marie yovanovitch. she's been called to testify in these proceedings. >> harris: today? >> exactly. and we know that mr. giuliani may have had some involvement that process now. he today told john roberts that he wasn't involved in this

took one look and called raymond "ray bob" roberts, then a detective with the san antonio police department it looks like a robbery gone bad. the store is in disarray. the clerk was found in the back office, she's dead. try to get some information, are there any witnesses? no, sir. you tell them, hold the scene down and get crime scene detectives out there. >> the news, indistinct, unc unconfirmed, spread through the texas afternoon, somebody dead in amber's store, but most people did not know who including amber's father as he headed over there. >> i jumped in my truck and i called a friend of mine who is a defense attorney, and i said, i need you to call anybody that you can and see what you can find out. and i was just about there and he called me and he said, well, how far are you from there. >> and that's when he realized, it wasn't that amber found someone dead. >> they found her. >> and my knees just buckled and i just -- my whole world just died right there. >> that's a pretty dreadful feeling, isn't it? >> it is the worst feeling in the world, because you totally realize no one can

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