president clinton could have done something about this but he was focused on age-old policies from robert rubin. president obama could have addressed and changed urban america, but he was focused on the age-old policies of larry summers. and george bush could have addressed these issues, but he was focused on the war on poverty -- i'm sorry, the war in other countries where we spent more than $7.8 trillion in the last 18 years. there is a war going on in urban america that is really calling on president trump and his administration, i believe, to now invest in an economic policy -- >> laura: he's already doing that with opportunities. he steps up and gets companies to commit big money in places like chicago and so forth. it's kind of a chicken and an egg problem -- >> laura, on the issue of the opportunity zones, i believe it's a great start to incentivize private investors, but i've learned in our communities that that private investment is just not enough. we have to get more public money to bear against the private money because we need something to complement it. quite frankly, poor people