robert samuelsson is a columnist at the "washington post." borks i want to start with you. i asked if i could call him a liberal. he said put in proud. do you defend the economy without using bush, romney or ryan. >> sure, i can defend it. we have to remember and you touched on this in your introduction. when barack obama took office, we were losing 700,000 jobs a month. the gdp, gross domestic product was plunging and we were on the verge of a great depression. he and his policies stopped that, prevented that from occurring. now, we've had a recovery, but everybody knows it's a weak recovery, and i think the president did not do enough. in fact, you mentioned liberal. i think the policy should have been more liberal. >> robert samuelsson, you gave the president this week a c plus on his economic report card. a plus avoiding the great depression, after that you gave him lower grades. why? >> you have to realize this recovery has been about half speed of the normal post world war ii recovery. we've been growing at about 2% a year. average for post world war ii recovery is ab