gary: do you agree with robert c chan -- robert sechan? jon: -- john: the relative performance will be subpar. rob: when i look at the market place today, there is a huge it ranges from two to 10. john: active management should outperform. you' ve got clients who normally know what they are going to get with an index. rod: is it easier to index and then pay for beta for large-cap? it might be. you got to get access to them. we have to be able to find them. that is probably easier for john than it is for most of you. gary: talk about the election and the impact on austria. rob: the united states is so powerful that we will power gary: let' s talk about how to raise the health of the u.s. economy. john: i think it is solid. i don' t think people are used a slow and steady. i think it is ashley very healthy for our country. we think about the 1950' s and the 1960' s and times when there was a lot of prosperity. gary: there is a theory that we have had seven years expansion and typically is that what our economy goes through cyclically. you ar