robert siegel. thank you for being here. >> -- >> dr. siegel, we cannot here. we are having a technical issue and we apologize. we will try to get him on. we are also awaiting senator kiley, one of the candidates in the recall election and according to the new poll that came out from the berkeley institute of governmental studies, he is in 4th place. he is in the assembly member from la, the si and governor newsome is one of his constituents so i'm looking forward to chatting with him. hopefully we can t ryimrtant at are tracking the rising cases. so the seven-day positivity rate is five .9%. the state is also saying there have been 72,252 -- excuse me, 73 million tests conducted in california representing an increase of 116,000 during the prior 24 hour reporting period. we are seeing more people getting tested and totally there have been 63,000 deaths since the start of this pandemic. let's get back to. dr. rutherford. >> the cdc recommendation yesterday put the bay area under this recommendation. it looks at the number of cases to determine how a places wides

robert siegel. here is part of conversation. >> reporter: the cdc is urging everyone to wear masks indoors in places with high transmission rates and that is basically the entire bay area. now officials recommend masks in public, indoor settings. what do you think about this guideline revision? >> i think people have to realize again that the delta variant is new. the information is new, so we should expect recommendations will change periodically as new information comes out. i personally find that wearing a mask is not a big inconvenience, so i am delighted that i am vaccinated and also happy to wear a mask, in a situation where especially if i don't know the vaccination status of another person. >> reporter: so do you think a full mask mandate is coming in the bay area or across the state? >> okay, so i don't know what the politics behind putting mandate is. i know there will be resistance to a full-blown mandate. i think there will be a strong recommendation and if the prevalence does not go dow

i was doing a pre-recorded interview for npr all things considered a couple weeks ago with robert siegel and i told them this story and he loved it. but i heard it's producer laughing in the background and she was like, you can't say that so you get to hear it tonight and so does c-span and unless they cut this out as well, but the story is ericson had a patient come into the hospital. was a medical student he was attending and this woman was a fixating on all kinds of blood and plus trapped in her chest and erikson decides to cut into her neck and all of this blood imposs begins to spill out and he decides to lower his mouth onto this wound and begin sucking it out. kind of like a weird vampire story for halloween. so, you're welcome. he does this three times. he sucks this blood and pus out of her neck and she survives which is it wasn't so good for the purposes of my story, but i'm a historian. i have to stick to the facts. i mean really they should have all died. i mean the infections and and the way that surgery or sorry diseases were spread of this time it just again, it's just min

new book the brains and brawn company, who joins us frequent the on the economy and the markets, robert siegel vaccine mandates sweeping the nation, what is the impact on our lifestyle and therefore the impact on our economy. >> interesting to see what happens going into the fall when we have restaurants and company say you have to be vaccinated, we could see a split in the economy, people allowed to participate as people who aren't and people who aren't allowed to participate that will hurt business getting into the winter season as it gets colder fewer people will go to restaurants. it could hurt business if people don't get vaccinated. stuart: if i see people walking around in masks and that happens in many parts of the country it is a downer, isn't it? that could have an impact on economic activity. >> it is largely psychological. i was talking to a ceo who said he would not impact business travel until 2022. once we could past leisure travelers people believe we are not on the other side of the pandemic and masks are a symbol that we have a problem because -- people are conservative and w