. >> professor robert stone, thank you very much. >> great. thank you. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> in plymouth harbor, england, than mayflower ii lies in a coup, i think the ship comes to life again after three centuries in the pages of history. she is as accurate a replicate of the original as scholars and shipwrights could make her, a gift of englishmen to america, and historical figure far removed from the solemn ceremonies. this commute to history takes the form of living adventure. 337 years after the original set sail for the new world, on the landing stage from which the pilgrims departed, they did the ships company got speed and smooth sailing. ♪ variants men had to handle square rigging. experience square rigged men sailed the cranky 17th century meant learning a lost art. a tiny craft to brave a lack she's only 90 feet long, 255 feet at her widest but mayflower the second carries on the ships company of 33. our namesake namesake sailed with 125 passengers and crew. the modern see flares have added advantages. a perfect the city of navigation, radio, a

we talked to robert stone about the virtual mayflower project which uses virtual reality to re-create ship and the harbor from which it set sail. using avatars and three to 60° images of the virtual world, professor stone describes what life might of been like for the pilgrims and crew. some of the historic features we will see in a virtual rendering of the 17th century court called the plymouth castle and the speedwell, ship that was set to sail with the mayflower to america but was deemed unseaworthy and returned to port. >> 1620 has been a big labor of love for me over the last six years. it's about trying to use reality to bring a part of england plymouth and the rest of the country back to life the people who lived there and people who experienced what it was like for the pilgrims in their mammoth journey across atlantic back in 1620 come what it was like for them, what was last thing they saw it before they got on this wiki, creaky ship and made the way out up into the treaches atlantic although centuries ago? >> we are going to jump right in and take a look at some of those 300

we talked to robert stone about the virtual mayflower project which uses virtual reality to re-create the ship in the harbor from which it set sail using avatars and 360 degrees images of the virtual world professor stone describes what life might have been like for the pilgrims and crew some of the historic features we will see in the virtual rendering of the 17th century port the ship that was such a sale with the mayflower but returned to port. >> over the last six years and then to be a part of england. and those that experience it what that was like before we even got on the ship. >> so we will jump into take a look at those. >> so here at the moment so then to be very sorry for herself but the structure that use see now with these people having a chat it is reminiscent of an old fishmarket and coming right up to the 1960s but that would be done here and and then to box it up. and outside the buildings but then those remains are there. not very hygienic. but most of this will be uncovered. and then. >> and then to come onto the street little later with a lot of accommodation of t

my question is robert stone. so he always a couple of course i'm going to say shit just to move. mr. roberts, if the system oh there is no shortage of growing tensions in eastern europe. there is a growing e. u. barrow stand off over illegal migration. there are western reports, russia is amassing troops within its own borders. and of course, there is the self inflicted crisis of european energy supplies. it is no coincidence, some recalling this hybrid war, but whose hybrid war against whom with people is nothing they catch right on police report. it's an all cash in december 2020, a group of anti finishes, sell out a film crew access for 3 months. so like if people organization, if an idea that is a must be a ppo, is that you can't allow the gate while they may come with that. but he says, but they can say what they believe in. we believe in helping our community. we believe that fascism is one of the major threats to the united states has gotten proven. this is a chance to see who and t for really are in order for me to extract my 1st amendment right and say that my life matter

. >> new subpoenas from the january six committee for trump confidant robert stone. conspiracy theories, alex, joan and three other people including trump's current spokesperson. then -- >> what a brutal thing a? not guilty on all counts. >> the dangerous celebration of a kid who killed two people. plus the internal pushback of fox news as the channel goals for monica. and paul, on what could be the single most consequential decision that the biden presidency. >> some will know that question why renominating jerome powell, when he was a choice of republican president has. her -- >> when all in starts right now. >> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes, roger stone, longtime infinite republican -- dirty's trickster, dating all the way back to the richard administration. he likes richard nixon so much, she's got a tattoo of nixon on his back. still also, notoriously is donald trump's longtime associate, ally, henchmen, and fixer. which is why in 2019, stone was convicted of seven felony counts, stemming from the russian investigation, including, obstruction inves

. >> new subpoenas from the january six committee for trump confidant robert stone.alex, joan and three other people including trump's current spokesperson. then -- >> what a brutal thing a? not guilty on all counts. >> the dangerous celebration of a kid who killed two people. plus the internal pushback of fox news as the channel goals for monica. and paul, on what could be the single most consequential decision that the biden presidency. >> some will know that question why renominating jerome powell, when he was a choice of republican president has. her -- >> when all in

because, you know, there is this ancient tradition, a kind of new england stone wall, robert frost kind of perhaps. tizeed about these farmers -- rhapsodized about these walls. and about 20 years ago, the stone masons wrote it at the time and started talking about it, but there was the creation of these things they called greenwich walls which were these large sort of fixed 8 or 9-feet fortifications really around the outside of where people were living. and it was a reflection of a changing mindset about a form of seclusion really within ourselves and within how we see our connection to one another. >> and if i remember the saying, it's that fences make good neighbors, right? not walls. >> yeah. the marketing term for stone mason is large fences make good neighbors. >> we will do some questions, so feel free to line up there. i want to get back to this idea of awe and dignity, right? these really important sensations and feelings that all of us experience as humans. and you write in the prologue america wasn't just losing a story of itself, it was losing a habit of mind, a capacity to

because, you know, there is this ancient tradition, a kind of new england stone wall, robert frost kind of perhaps. tizeed about these farmers -- rhapsodized about these walls. and about 20 years ago, the stone masons wrote it at the time and started talking about it, but there was the creation of these things they called greenwich walls which were these large sort of fixed 8 or 9-feet fortifications really around the outside of where people were living. and it was a reflection of a changing mindset about a form of seclusion really within ourselves and within how we see our connection to one another. >> and if i remember the saying, it's that fences make good neighbors, right? not walls. >> yeah. the marketing term for stone mason is large fences make good neighbors. >> we will do some questions, so feel free to line up there. i want to get back to this idea of awe and dignity, right? these really important sensations and feelings that all of us experience as humans. and you write in the prologue america wasn't just losing a story of itself, it was losing a habit of mind, a capacity to

stone: well, your honor, first, i think the court would have to determine whether or not that was a sincere conversion. chief justice roberts: well, but right. that's what i'm asking you. how would you -- what would you do to make sure you've accommodated that concern? stone: the court would go -- go into a pretext inquiry as discussed in the rfra context in footnote 28 of hobby lobby. it would look into factors like, for example, how is this individual -- how has this individual behaved in the past? have they made any similar -- chief justice roberts: well, he had a conversion experience. i suspect impending death focuses people's concerns on religion in a way they may not have been before. and with death imminent, he decided he needed to pursue this route to salvation. stone: on just those facts alone, your honor, it would sound to me that, with nothing else that the individual might , be seeking delay of his execution because several days beforehand he is requesting a multi-month process. but i think that would be a credibility determination and that would be -- chief justice roberts: well, but -- yeah, i understand that

stone: well, your honor, first, i think the court would have to determine whether or not that was a sincere conversion. chief justice roberts: well, but right. that's what i'm asking you. how would you -- what would you do to make sure you've accommodated that concern? stone: the court would go -- go into a pretext inquiry as discussed in the rfra context in footnote 28 of hobby lobby. it would look into factors like, for example, how is this individual -- how has this individual behaved in the past? have they made any similar -- chief justice roberts: well, he had a conversion experience. i suspect impending death focuses people's concerns on religion in a way they may not have been before. and with death imminent, he decided he needed to pursue this route to salvation. stone: on just those facts alone, your honor, it would sound to me that, with nothing else that the individual might , be seeking delay of his execution because several days beforehand he is requesting a multi-month process. but i think that would be a credibility determination and that would be -- chief justice roberts: well, but -- yeah, i understand that

chief justice roberts: thank you, counsel. general stone. mr. stone: thank you, mr. chief justice, and may it please the court. petitioners' pursuit of an injunction suffers from two fundamental problems. first, none of the individuals that petitioners sued are appropriate defendants under well-established article iii and equitable principles. second, petitioners ask for an expansion of access to the federal courts that only congress, and not this court may provide. petitioners' article iii and equitable problems begin with what they really want, an injunction against s.b. 8, the law itself. they can't receive that because federal courts don't issue injunctions against laws but against officials enforcing laws. no texas executive enforces s.b. 8 either, and so no texas executive may then be enjoined. petitioners then turned to state court judges and state court clerks and, apparently, in this court, now narrow their focus to state court clerks. but even they don't suggest that either judges or clerks act unlawfully in the ordinary course by adjudicating a case or rec

have you join us for a special day, very special day of the stone unturned distinguished speakers presented with the opening inside of the robert caro symposium archiving the exhibition is on our second floor and this is the first drawn from the archives of robert caro symposium's award-winning work on robert moses lyndon johnson are regarded as masterpieces of modern biography and history. and this is a good a good time for me to acknowledge the biographer and master of narrative, robert caro and his wife china. [applause] wife china and work also very pleased to have here with us today. in today's panel, history and integrity in an age of misinformation is a special conversation inspired by robert caro's distinguished work and just before introduced our panelists however, would like to thank and recognize a number of trustees who have joined us this morning. , agnes and andrew, david, dorothy goldman, patricia - and others. i would like to thank all of them but i would also like to thank those joining us via lifestream this morning our chair are vice chair elect, the trustees. many thank you to all of you and everything that

robert e. lee after his death. a great question from the audience here. he says his father from lexington, virginia. my dad was born in stone wall jackson house when it was the county hospital. he was raised sop as we're approaching this examination of lost cause of lee or to be condemned as we start to figure out who the man is, they want to know how can i introduce my dad to more mod erp approach to the civil war that he might be receptive to. >> first of all, reflect on yourself and your own experience. all of us are the products of many times, places and things we have met. we are all of us the con influence of many strains. not all of which at the same time we're in the same power or even with the same message. we deal with those ourselves. we deal with complexity ourselves. that's simply in the nature of human beings. there's no such thing as a simple human being. as soon as we realize that then we understand the people that we look at in history are not in that perspective for us. they too are the confluence of strains. they are part of all that they have met. when we understand oirss in this way then we look for som

. >> chief justice john roberts who voted in september to block the law from going into effect seemed exasperated by the solicitor general for the state of texas, judd stone. >> assume that the bounty is not $10,000 but $1 million. do you think in that case the chill on the conduct at issue here would be sufficient to allow federal court review prior to the end of the state court process? >> no, your honor. i might add this is specifically a damages action. it is capped at much less than that. that is a significant difference. >> my question is what we call a hypothetical. >> leading off our discussion tonight is neal katyal, former acting solicitor general and msnbc contributor. neal, i want to begin with that last point that the chief made about his hypothetical and what if the amount of money were higher, trying to show what the chilling effect is on behavior because of the threat of lawsuits. >> exactly. so, you know, as an advocate, the last thing you want to do is get what the chief justice said in that question, which is, hey, this is a hypothetical, please answer it. it was the texas solicitor general's, i believe, first argument. i thought he did

robert mueller who lasted less than two years and in that time charged and convicted people like trump's national security advisor, his campaign manager, his deputy campaign manager, his personal attorney, his personal -- roger stone, personal fixer, and a large number of very significant people that were key and critical to the trump campaign and later to the administration. when i look at these two players, i see folks that were not involved in any of those cases. you know, robert mueller didn't rely on steele's information at all. the alfa bank information was looked at by the fbi and determined to be not -- didn't appear to be anything, we weren't quite sure what it was. and then finally with regard to mr. danchenko's information, it was relevant to carter page, but carter page made up about eight pages of an almost 500-page mueller report. so my worry is that as americans hear this news and don't really know how the russia investigation ended, they hear these concerns and they say, well, there must be a problem, and that's being picked up and amplified by people seizing on this to say, see, everything that mueller did, it was nonsense, bogus, and based on lies, and that just couldn't be further from the truth