bob shrum and robert trayhnam.the obama administration dispute that when it's coming straight from the horse's mouth? >> it's a piece of naked propaganda. the taliban had been trying to capture or kill americans for a long time. they are going to keep trying to do that. those cells from al qaeda will keep trying to do that. look, the israelis have a long record of being very tough on terror. they've engaged in the prisoner swaps at the scale that's far larger than this. and in two cases trading over 1,000 people to get back a soldier much it was fundamentally right to get him back. i think the president did the right thing. i think you could have legitimate arguments whether it was handled in the right way. >> bob shrum, if you're going to cite the israeli example, israel in part because of that policy constantly dogged by attempted kidnappings of their soldiers. >> there have been attempts to kidnap forever and they want to do it all the time not because they get people back. that's one of the reasons but because