a new survey from robert walters finds that close to 70% say middle management is too high stress with low rewards, and gen zers say they would opt in for a flat structure over a hierarchical one. in fact, just 14% believe the traditional structure still fits the business landscape. however, 9 in 10 employers still think that middle managers play a crucial role in their organizations. welcome to the nine. i do see it. >> what i do see it like. >> so if they were to say, okay, andre, i'm going to promote you to be the scheduler middle manager kind of thing. yeah, i'm not going to pay you that much more. and all of a sudden you have all this stress. a lot of people are saying, nah, i'm not going to do that. >> yeah, i could see that because you're getting more stress, but not that much more pain. you know, if you get the pay, you could take the hit of the stress. exactly. i completely get that. >> and oftentimes i think middle managers are a couple steps removed from like why you got into it, which totally speaks to what we get to do every day. >> so if we became managers, like high mana