we speak with blanche lincoln and robert weissman. airs liven journal" every morning beginning at 7:00 eastern on c-span. a couple of live events today. the senate homeland security committee will hold a hearing on the navy yard shooting and security at federal buildings at 10:30. at 2:00 on a foreign relations subcommittee looks at the violence in central african republic. >> i am standing in front of the world's first practical airplane. this was the third and final experimental airplane that the wright brothers built and survives as the second oldest of their airplanes today. orville wright consider this the airplaneirst practical and was constructed and flown in less than 60 years' time. the time between they built their kite and this airplane. than two yearsss after their first flight in kitty hawk, north carolina. er in kitty hawk flew four times on one historic day. they very much worthy proof of heavier thanwered, air flight. flyerhe 1905 wright behind me was capable of repeated flights, not just for a few seconds, but upwards

and robert weissman, president of public citizen. "washington journal" is next. ♪ week seven, republican senators say they will vote for a two-year budget agreement today. debate,test of vote and a final vote expected tomorrow. and his ruling on an as they surveillance -- on nsa itveillance operations -- infringes on a degree of privacy that people enshrine in the fourth amendment printed in an appeal of the decision could take six months. washington journal for december 17, 2013. the folks at "the national jo

and robert weissman, president of public citizen. "washington journal" is next. ♪ week seven, republican senators say they will vote for a two-year budget agreement today. debate,test of vote and a final vote expected tomorrow. and his ruling on an as they surveillance -- on nsa itveillance operations -- infringes on a degree of privacy that people enshrine in the fourth amendment printed in an appeal of the decision could take six months. washington journal for december 17, 2013. the folks at "the national journal" put together who had -- put together a list of who had the best year in politics. for our first 45 minutes we are looking for the same from you. who had the best year in politics? maybe it was a figure, a government body. our phone lines -- our twitter account is -- like i said, the "national journal" put together a poll. they compiled a list of republicans and democrats asking who had the best year in politics. when it comes to those responding for the democrats, here is the result of their list. here is what they came u

. >> host: also joining us, robert weissman, a public citizen ands as their -- serves as their president. welcome to you as well. we've kind of titled in thepu costs and benefits, let's start with you, senator lincoln, are there costs or benefits to regulation? >> guest: absolutely, and i'll be willing to bet youos that robert and i agree probably on a lot more than we disagree on, but any regulation is going to have a cost, and it's going to have a benefit, hopefully. absolutely. i will bet we will agree on more than we disagree on. we want to see greater transparency in terms of what the costs and benefits are. we want real data to be able to see what that is all about. what would you say goes into factoring it, if it is a cost or a benefit? guest: everything should. we are what -- way over the majority of small businesses want safer working conditions, they want cleaner air and cleaner water. they also want to be heard and about how regulations affect them as small businesses. and what are the cost to them, whether it is a cost out of their pocket, in terms of jobs they could be creat