you are on with robert woodson. caller: i'm a 60-year-old white woman that does -- i work with minority businesses. i can go in and get credit in 10 minutes. thousands of dollars of credit. i was working with a 55-year-old electricians business who several years ago went in to buy a truck. the lender on the other side made 16 to 17 calls in a day allegedly trying to get him credit to buy his truck. what happened was, all of those requests destroyed his credit. it took him two years to recover from that. when he goes out and thinks about getting credit to build his business, he is shy. he is credit shy. he won't risk. it is because of that racist response. guest: let me say, i'm glad you raised that. i'm not suggesting that racism is not still present in society. it is here. we must confront it. it is not the most important problem that we face. i will give you an example. in detroit, at church -- a church, of pastor said there are 50 vacant houses in my neighborhood. he took money from the church and invested in pur

robert woodson is the founder and president. thanks for your time. >> thank you. >>> another view on poverty now with lester spence, political science professor from johns hopkins university. >> we're back. our conversation continues today about the criminal justice system. we're joined by lester spence who is a political science associate professor talking about racial and socioeconomic factors. let's talk about the divide in this country. the factors that go into it. describe it. where is the divide? how big of a divide is it? >> if you think about all the resources that government allocates or various institutions allocate that kind of shape how well we're able to live, that shape our access to government and a range of things, black people and non-whites in general are usually at the bottom of all of them. if you think about health issues, black people are usually sicker. if you think about education issues, black people have less access to quality education than whites do. if you think about wealth issues, housing issues, b

we appreciate you coming by. >> tomorrow, robert woodson looks at ways to reduce inner-city poverty and how poverty affects poor neighborhoods and the crime rate. after that, the controversy surrounding the training exercises scheduled to take place in western states this summer. plus your phone calls, facebook comments, and tweets. "washington journal" is live tuesday at 7:00 eastern on c-span. announcer: tonight we met up with the author who says we are in a new phase of human development and through robots and other technology, we are likely to enhance the human condition. >> robots is an interesting one because 2014 was the year of robot angst. i don't know if the day went by when i did not see some story about how robots are stealing jobs from humans, and that we are all going to end up out of work. on a daily basis, you hear stories about a robot who is a better bartender then humans and so on. the thing i find -- the point i think is missed is every prior revolution or advance in automation has resulted in better jobs for humans. we are worried about robots taking our jobs and ha

. >> coming up this hour, robert woodson at the center for neighborhood enterprise looks at the effect inner-city poverty has on neighborhoods. after that, then the month of the washington post discusses the controversy about the training exercising schedule to take place in western states this summer. plus, your facebook comments and tweets. host: good morning, it is tuesday, may 12, 2015. the house returns at noon today and the senate will be back at 10:00 a.m.. beginning a debate on the controversial trade authority bill set for later this afternoon. first, we will focus on the commencement address. that which first lady michelle obama gave at tuskegee university over the weekend. this

next panelist i will introduce is robert woodson. founder and president of the center for neighborhood enterprise which since 1981 has provided training for more than 2600 leaders and community based groups in 39 states. mr. woodson is also the author of youth crime and urban policy, a view from the inner-city, and trial for joseph how today's community healers are refiving our streets and neighborhoods. and finally glenn loury, professor of economics at brown university. mr. loury also taught at boston university harvard and northwestern. he is recipient of gug enheim fellowship and carnegie scholarship. member of council on foreign relations, and author of several books including one by one from the inside-out essays on race in america, race and incarceration, american values put out in 2008. on a personal note, i would like to say that both professor loury and bob woodson more than they could possibly realize influenced my thinking on many of the issues we are talking about today over the years. i discovered both their writings wh

next panelist i will introduce is robert woodson. ounder and president of the center for neighborhood enterprise which since 1981 has provided training for more than 2600 leaders and community based groups in 39 states. mr. woodson is also the author of youth crime and urban policy, a view from the inner-city, and the triumphs of joseph how today's today's community healers are reviving our streets and neighborhoods. and finally, glenn loury, professor of economics at brown university. mr. loury also taught at boston university, harvard, and northwestern. he is recipient of gug enheim fellowship and carnegie scholarship. member of council on foreign relations, and author of several books including one by one from the inside-out, essays on race in america, race and incarceration, american values, which was put out on 2008. on a personal note, i would like to say that both professor loury and bob woodson more than they could possibly realize influenced my thinking on many of the issues we are talking about today over the years. i discov

. >> we will be opening the phone lines again tomorrow talking with robert woodson of the center for neighborhood enterprise on poverty's affect our neighborhoods and ways to reduce it. and then a discussion on the controversy surrounding the multistate military training exercises scheduled to take place in california -- in states from california to texas. that's on "washington journal" live tomorrow morning starting at 7:00 eastern. both chambers of congress in session. the senate gavel and to consider the release of u.s. citizens in iran. a vote is scheduled for 5:30 eastern time. debate on trade promotion expected throughout the rest of the week. you can follow the debate live on c-span2. later in the week members will consider bills, including one that bans abortion after 20 weeks and ending the nsa phone record collection program. you can watch the house, live right here on c-span. >> remarkable partnerships, iconic women, their stories in "first ladies" the book. >> she did save the portrait of washington which was one of the things that it deirdre to the entire nation. >> if w

they are making choices to abide by the law, they stay clear of the dirty people, and robert woodson has long said we should be studying the success cases and not always obsessing about the failures. that is a very valid point. i would argue, i spoke about the data-driven revolution that just transformed policing and brought about the longest and steepest crime drop in the history new york and internationally. the comstat revolution. prosecution is now trying to use the same techniques of data driven analysis to design how to prosecute cases. i looked at the massive conspiracy gang cases that the manhattan da brought in east harlem. and through rioting social media and using their prosecutorial resources to target the worst criminals, they got massive gangs off the street. none of the gangs shooting each other had anything to do with drug dealings. the only grounds for violence on the street is a spin off of drugs. in fact, the drug trade has gotten more peaceful of late because thanks to new york policing which has driven it in doors, but the violence continues and john by no means

. >> on our next "washington journal," robert woodson looks at the effect inner-city poverty has on neighborhoods. after that, demo bar -- dan lamarr discusses the j helm 15 military exercises. plus, your phone calls, facebook comments come into tweets. "washington journal" is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern each morning on c-span. >> presidential candidates often release books to introduce themselves to voters. here's a look at some recent books written by declared and potential candidates for president. former secretary of state hillary clinton looks back on her time serving in the obama administration in "hard choices." in "american dreams," marco rubio outlines his plan to restore economic opportunity. i cut the begin systemic on politics and culture in "god and guns, grits, and gravy." and in "blue-collar conservatives," rick santorum argues that the republicans must focused on the working class to retake the white house. in "a fighting chance," elizabeth warren recounts the events in her life that shaped her career as an educator and politician. scott walker argues that republicans must offer old

[applause] >> on our next "washington journal," robert woodson looks at the effect inner-city poverty has on neighborhoods. and the controversy surrounding the jade helm 15 military exercises scheduled to occur in western states this summer. and taking your comments, facebook, and twe 7:00 a.m. on c-span. ets. -- and tweets seven a.m. on c-span. >> here is a look at recent books written by declared and potential candidates. hillary clinton looks back on her time in "hard choices." marco rubio in "american dreams" ." and and in blue-collar conservatives, potential candidate rick santorum argues the republican party must focus on the working class in order to retake the white house. in a fighting chance massachusetts senator elizabeth warren recounts the events in her life that shaped her career as an educator and politician. wisconsin governor scott walker argues republicans must offer bold solutions to fix the country and have the courage to implement them in "unint imidated." and kentucky senator rand paul calls for smaller government and more bipartisanship in "taking a stand." more

. >> robert woodson. >> i would like to speak to this from the perspective of a social act vis that spends most of my time in low income neighborhoods. i would say 80% of my friends are ex something. >> but not ex-friends. >> no. they're ex-drug addicts, ex-prostitutes, ex-something. and i think that when i was active in the civil rights movement probably one of the few people when dr. king died, i hit the streets with ten neighborhood leaders and interposed ourselves between the national guard and the police and the rioters. the reason we could prevail is because the people i was with was respected and known by the people, not a single civil rights person not a single pastor was there but they were grass roots leaders and they represented what i call community antibodies. the sickest part of the body draws the healthiest antibodies. but we only call or come in in times of crisis. these are the legitimate leaders of low income people. it was after that that i realize that a lot of people who suffered and sacrificed most in the battle for civil rights didn't change. it was about well educat

on this morning's washington journal we were joined by robert woodson who discussed ways to relieve inner city poverty. this is about 45 minutes. >> we're joined by bob woodson. he joins us for a discussion about inner city poverty. the role it played in the recent unrest in baltimore and how best to address that issue. >> it's an national non-profit that i founded 35 years ago in washington, d.c. for the purpose of helping low income communities overcome poverty from the inside out and from the bottom up. we believe that the solutions to poverty can be found among those suffering the problem and so i as a former civil rights activist i realized that a lot of people who suffered and sacrificed they do not benefit from the change. from the very beginning we should make distinction between the needs and desires of low income blacks and upper income blacks. there's always been issues about low income blacks benefits from the movement. the center for neighborhood enterprise goes into low income communities and we go to the 30% of the households that are raising children that are not dropping

they stay clear of the dirty people, and robert woodson has long said we should be studying the success cases and not be always obsessing about the failures. and there's -- that's a very valid point. i would also argue i spoke earlier about this data-driven revolution that reform -- just transformed policing and brought about the longest and steepest crime drop in history both in new york and nationally. that is known as the comp stat revolution. prosecution is now trying to use the same techniques of data-driven analysis to try to decide how to prosecute cases. i looked at some of the massive conspiracy gang cases that the manhattan d.a. brought in east harlem. and through riding social media and using their prosecutorial resources to target the worst criminals, they got these massive gangs off the streets. none of these gangs who were shooting each other had anything to do with drug dealing. it is not the case, especially today when you have crews that the only grounds for violence on the streets is a spin-off of drugs. in fact the drug trade has gotten more peaceful of late because t