threats and his real strategy for his future policy, and the president of the european parliament roberta metzolaaid the other day that it is necessary to move the question of creating an autonomous defense cluster in europe, which would be independent of nato, but would not be a competitor of nato, which would complement it, into a practical plane. do you think there is a chance in the short term? build such an alliance and what could it look like? well, in fact, it is partly connected with what we have already talked about, because everything rests in one way or another on the industrial complex of european countries and on their ability to produce weapons systems and ammunition for them in sufficient quantities in order to to ensure one's own, well, at least defense capability, if not to talk about security in general. if we talk about these statements of trump, they are not really new, well, because trump started his presidency back in 2016, when he actually started it precisely... with these topics, with the topics that the european nato allies, the united states, to put it mildly, they are