he's got this wall, it's a book of poetry and a photograph of robertoez lopez part of his "in the american west." >> this is andre carte. >> who refused to be photographed for0 years and the museum of modern art was showing his early photographs and he wanted to publicize it for them so he agreed "life" magazine could do a pictu story and his first question was "can you f take all the pictures from behind?" and i said "no, i can't." >> rose:no. no. >> and i felt the most important thing to do was nail him down as quickly as possible. get that face. so he started taking pictures of me. rose: i can imagine. >> and i wt to cli so i had a motor on my camera and we sounded like two insects getting into each other and he thought this was amusing and he giggled. >> rose: the next someone cartier, a closeup. >> i just moved into the left just to nail down this monumental head of his. of course he kept his hand up there because... at least he kept part of his face hidden. >> rose: do you think he understood what a great photograph would be so therefore he was trying togive you a pose that he though