five years into the roberts court but it's a little bit of a misnomer to talk about the roberts courtecause it keeps changing. before chief justice roberts came on there were 11 years with no shifts in personnel -- the second longest period in united states history with a constant, static court, and now, boom, we have a new chief justice, chief justice roberts, followed by justice alito, followed by justice sotomayor last year and today for the first time we saw justice kagan on the bench, so that's a lot of change, mostly not consequential change because the switches tended to be ideologically one for one with the one exception of justice alito for justice o'connor which did shift the court to the right. >> charlie: do we still believe that justice kennedy is the crucial vote on most issues coming before the court? or is that more said than done? >> without question, it's -- in the contested cases, the advocates train all of their arguments on justice kennedy because he's going to be the deciding vote. >> we've had swing votes before. in the 1970's, it was lewis powell. in the 1980's

rather annoying robert robert go right ahead i'm from the arbor day you go right ahead yeah. ok you let the tides wash over for a second look it's true that most of the arab world is trying to tell the cerium saudi arabia jordan egypt because we the west support them we want them to be totalitarian we want them to conclude their quote unquote their own people to be on our side. and that's why we hope i was enraged and we wanted to. continue in my haste if i made your continual but you are a finished miley's gentlemen and robert finish in just a moment please roger you lisa made you get in you speaking go ahead thank you i was in iran for the elections and i tell you something i rather fear that i'm a dynegy and won the elections but i don't think he won them by the percentage poll that we were told i think the iranian government lied about his popularity and lloyd about the supposed unpopularity of the opposition i think he probably won but they wanted to get on a bit and make the humiliation of the losers greater and thus of course the poll became in effect and in reality a

agree robert think that robert i'd like to go to robert now robert if there's i'm going to ask you this whole observer ok let me start a new troops of ado here between israel and iran i don't think anyone would ever know you let me know robert let's change the subject as we're not going to go anywhere with this issue here ok let's talk about iraq ok we have actually you i've got one thing to say excuse me well professor marandi we have plenty of crackpots in the west for example bellus kone and instead of being would be war criminals like perhaps the president of iran we have a real war criminal in the british isles called the former prime minister tony blair we've all got our war criminals and and crackpots but we have to deal with realities but you want to talk about iraq if you will you say straight away i think it is you're spot on about going to iraq because iran has won the iraq war and i don't think there's anyone on this program who would honestly this is an area ok all right let's gentlemen let's go i change it there's no here i would immediately i know where we have to move on

john roberts. >> charlie: really. >> john roberts is a great writer. think he is an elegant stylist. i think if he keeps going he's going to be the best writer on that court since robert jackson who to me is the best writer in the history of the court. >> charlie: same robert jackson who was a prosecutor at nuremberg. >> who served on the court in the 1940's and 1950's, i am a big fan in my recent article about stephen breyer in "the new yorker" i quote a sentence that roberts wrote in a fairly obscure case, but it was so elegant and turned so well that i won't botch it by trying to quote it but i'll just say it was awfully good. >> he went on to quote justice breyer in juxtaposition and it was not flattering. >> i did do it on purpose because breyer is -- perhaps this is a little nasty -- i said he writes in a sort of judicial powerpoint, "ifrt first, second, third" he's -- "first, second, third" he's a bright guy but he's not a stylist. >> charlie: who other than justice roberts would be second place for you, adam? >> justice scalia, very lively, ent

discuss the controversy surrounding political correctness i'm joined by robert shibley in raleigh he is the senior vice president of the foundation for individual rights in education in london we have robert sharpe campaign manager at english pan and in greensboro we crossed lenore billings harris chief diversity strategist at excel development systems and author of the diversity advantage a guide to making diversity work and another member of our cross talk team and the hunger all right folks crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want a first thought i had to go to robert in raleigh i was looking at some of your case studies to do deal with political correctness in your opinion what does it mean going too far in political correctness because as i was researching this program i typed in that political correctness going to far very high correlation is it going too far. i think it is going too far especially where we call it straight which is on college and university campuses in the united states political correctness has sort of a choke hold on the way univ

i was just going to say go ahead robert in line and go ahead. i thank you very much we are far too polite here maybe . both of the right to offend has to be. a weapon in political discourse it's a fantastic way to rattle the cage is of political leaders who have a lot of power so. i'm very wary of any. suggestion you an example can you give an example can you give an example of that ok. all right go ahead robert on the other side of the ocean there go ahead i mean being politically correct correct and provocative at the same time without being called mean clearly. yeah just same time i mean you're saying like you're saying i do. certain cases where it's ok to be politically incorrect to make a point. i think there are certain cases i think immediately you could say was that there i'm sorry robert in london because we started there then we'll go back to you robert go ahead thanks no i was just saying i mean you know south park spitting image in the u.k. i believe there was a program in russia as well i think it's called quickly with puppets and v

robert h.built this place from what was once a drive-in movie theater into america's original mega church complete with a weekly sunday broadcast. >> join us for america's television church -- >> reporter: the "hour of power," the first and longest-running television ministry in history. schiller famously saved evel knievel. >> the god you're praying to is never going to hear you anything. >> no, he wasn't. i was empty. >> reporter: upbeat in that blue academic gown, he was one of the most recognizable preachers in america. >> the solution is not to look at the problem but to look at the possibilities. >> reporter: at its height, his message of positive prayer reached an audience of millions. >> the tower of hope. >> reporter: the glory of christmas and easter pageants always featured live camels and donkeys. i mean, you're found of this place? >> oh, my god, i love the place. it was so inspiring, you walk on that campus and you're just exhilarated beyond description. now you feel heart broken.

frank, ron, and robert paine are my guests here on the show.elcome to the show. >> thank you. >> tell us about the last name paine, where it comes from. >> from my grandfather. he was german descent, first generation born here in america. and met my grandmother, hispanic. and neither one could actually communicate with each other. he was a postman. she was working for a doctor. and they would just sit there and basically make goo goo eyes at each other, and they fell in love. >> and the seed was planted. >> yes, it was. >> ron, you've been to the hispanic charity ball before. your thoughts on this year being the honorees. >> it's an honor. i was part of it last year. just seeing the families that are up there, not just the ones that win but also the ones that were nominated. i think it's very important that everyone gets a little moment to be recognized for what they're doing. there are so many people, families that have given to this community that you don't hear about and it was good to hear those stories. >> robert, you're a san jose police

robert miller was awarded the highest military decoration. miller and his team were ambushed by the taliban in january of 2008. survivors say miller continued to fight, even after he was wounded. in afghanistan, the brits are staying put. david cameron and defended his role in afghanistan today. they're not remains a critical part of keeping terrorist ad day -- they're not -- they now remain a critical part of keeping terrorist ad today. >> they were trained by al qaeda in afghanistan. those training camps could easily come back if we left tomorrow. why? because the afghans are not yet ready to take control of our security. >> he also stressed that the british troops will not remain after the 2015 pullout date. france's foreign ministry has issued warnings for travelers. leaders are recommending caution in crowded tourist spots. a message on the website said british authorities believe that the level of terrorist threats is very high in the united kingdom and the risk of an attack is very likely. france and several other european nations have

in washington she is vice president for communications at common cause also in washington we go to robert stein he's senior economist at first trust advisors and in stanford we crossed to victor david davis hanson he is the senior fellow at stanford university's hoover institution and another member of our cross talk team you know on a hunger all right folks cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want mary i want to go to you first is the united states still republic of the people for the people. yes it is but we are seeing a huge surge of special interest money which is going to affect our you know national agenda moving forward ok that's very short victor how my you a lot of people are commenting on the election financing campaigns where the fs f.e.c. says that only thirty two percent or a percent of groups paying for election ads are disclosing their names and don't i don't or else and that's a big drop in from previous campaigns is that something to worry about. yeah it is i think the big news in the united states is that traditionally the republican conserv

look," i'm thomas roberts.ht on "late night with jimmy fall jimmy fallon," he joked about a man who ran naked in front of president obama yesterday. >> obama called the stunt highly immature, and owe biden called it totally worth it. the rockefeller center ice skating rink opened this weekend, you guys. nice change of pace. i like it. nice change of pace. usually when they deliver to ice for nbc, it's for kathy lee's mini barr. don't know if you heard about this, a high school in texas has a new club where girls don't wear makeup. yep. it's called the softball team. >> on "late night tonight" johnny knoxville, and musical guest everest. that's "late night with jimmy fallon" on your local nbc station. it's time for a look at your -- your "first look" at entertainment news. the marriage of a popular hollywood couple is coming to an end. we're talking about the 11-year marriage between courteney cox and david arquette. they are calling it quits. the pair confirm they separated months ago but remain friends and co-

the woman convicted of killing an expected mother has now been sentenced. 29-year-old korena roberts will spend the rest of her life behind bars without the possibility of parole for the 2001 murder of heather snively. did not with the intent of buying baby clothes, and instead roberts killed heather snively two months before she was to give birth. >> it is a tough one to swallow, you know? you come up to a place for a fresh beginning, and to have sothing so tragic happened with such good intentions. >> roberts, pretended to be the mother called 9112 said the break -- the baby was not breathing. jury deliberations continue in the trial of three suspects accused of killing ken harris. the jury is reportedly deadlocked. charles mcganey, gary collins, and jerome williams each faced 29 charges in the robbery at the haven lounge. a baltimore city jury has awarded a 23-year-old woman nearly $21 million. the jury found that marie carter suffered lead poisoning while living in a house on baltimore city. the case was based on circumstantial evidence. the award will be reduced because of the s

i'm thomas roberts.re is some of the top news making news this morning. tens of thousands got their first look at their leader in waiting after he made his first national appearance yesterday. kim jong un joined hits father, kim junk ill in a parade for the ruling party. >>> lushao boe says she's under house rate and being barred from visiting family and friends. she informed her husband that he won the nobel last week for seeking greater rights in the communist nation. >>> a gay rights protest in serbia occurred yesterday in nearly a decade in serbia. >>> and the population of the international space station has doubled. two russian cosmonauts and an american astronaut arrived for what will be a nearly six-month stay at the laboratory. >>> now here is you're first look at wall street. the dow opens at 11,00 6/after gaining 57 points on friday. the s&p rose 7 points and the nasdaq added 18. >>> trading overseas in tokyo, the nikkei was closed while in hong kong, the hang seng climbed 263 points. >>> wall

i'm thomas roberts. those stories and more are straight ahead. this is "first look" on msnbc. >>> so we begin this morning with drenched, soaked and plain old wet. flood watching in effect for parts of the nation's northeast after a monster of a storm moved from the carolinas all the way up to maine yesterday causing at least five deaths. the worst of the rain fell in north carolina. jacksonville picked up 12 inches in six hours, nearly a quarter of its annual rainfall. nbc's kurt gregory has more. >> reporter: the remnants of tropical storm nichole blew through the carolinas, causing flooding along the coast. wilmington, north carolina, soaked with 22 inches of rain since sunday. >> >> reporter: that's not only a four-day record but more rain that hurricane floyd produced in 1999. >> reporter: the storm caused dangerous driving conditions up and down the coast. state troopers blamed the weather for a rollover accident that killed four people. the relentless rain caused one city bus to slam into another

i'm thomas roberts. today, we begin with the final hours before freedom after enduring more than two months underground, chile's 33 trapped miners are now less than 24 hours away from being brought to the surface. tonight, rescuers are expected to begin hoisting the men up to what will be no doubt a huge celebration. nbc's kerry sanders filed this report for us late yesterday from chile. >> reporter: teams here conducted a test. the escape capsule traveled 20 feet inside the steal pipe without a problem. so they went a step further and sent it down the shaft within feet of the trapped miners. >> we didn't send it down because we could risk that somebody could jump in. >> reporter: some of the equipment is still being anchored into a concrete slab. soon the escape pod connected to the ski chair lift cable will be hook up to a heavy duty winch. the capsule travels down the shaft for the first 183 feet inside that steal reinforcing pipe. past that, driven simply by gravity, it sides down the rock walls 1,56

robert reich. >> robert gottlieb is back, his publishing career spans 50 years. during that time has been editor in chief of simon and shoeseri al ford ca 23406 and "theew yorker" magazi. he is writer the new book sarah in the le of sar bernhard. he also known as-- was one of most famous actress in the worldment i'm pleased to have robert golieb back at is table. welcome. >> thanks. >> rose: what is this series about? >> it is about jewish lives whh is why its called jewish lives. >> rose: but yale initiated it. >> yes. a very benign person, gave him a considerable amount of money to launch this series and pay for it generously so that they could hire sign on the writers it they wanted. >>hey signede you to do this >> they did. >> rose: and who else are they doing? >> almost everybody you can think of. >> rose: really it is that mammoth. >> iis gng to be very big, yeah. >> rose: did they have any particular reason other than the fact that you had a rich care that i have just outlined for having you do her? opinions yeah there was a reason. because of three or fou

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i'm thomas roberts. today we begin with breaking news. after spending more than two months trapped nearly half a mile underground, the first five of 33 chilean miners have been rescued. round-the-clock efforts are under way as we speak as rescuers work to bring the remaining men back aboveground and home to their loved ones. nbc natalie gonzalez has the story. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. a very long and very emotional and historic night here in copiapo, chile add the miners are being pulled one by one by one in this rescue operation now, several hours now into it. the first pulled out, after vale gave his father a big hug, you can imagine, and next, a funny moment. he launched into tears and had all of the rescue team chanting add cheering [ speaking in foreign language ] and, in fact, brought back some souvenirs for all the rescuers as he greeted them. gave them each rocks from down below. then the other, the youngest of the group, 19 years old, one by one by one, a historic and incredibly remark

parliamentary procedures or roberts rules of order. there are coalition of san francisco neighborhood in the audience has robert's rules in brief. a few copies she would be glad to sell you. >> for a very low price i believe 7 dollars. they are invaluable. robert's rules are some of the most interesting things i've read not intimidating what so ever. and if you would like a copy they are right here at the slim volume but it works. i think that those 2 tools the by laws and the robert's rules parliamentary procedure would be -- going at it legally without going and saying, pointing if anythingers at people which is something you really don't want to do. >> can i say as somebody for 10 years worked in the community and didn't is a plug in any neighborhood association or organization. especially in an area where we have a lot of low income housing where they don't organize neighborhood associations and their voices are not heard in the agendas that are being shaped for that neighborhood or that community. the key for me was really just en

>> well, robert has done some work on that. >> no traces? >> the fascinating thing about the story is that we only know of her existence from the letters. as we have no objective records from the birth registries. all we have are the letters in which she is mentioned. there are all those who argue she didn't exist at all. >> there's no question einstein had an unusually active labido. >> i guess it depends on the norm. >> do you think genius is an excuse for this conduct? >> absolutely not. he was the first to acknowledge that, saying that was not his strength. he was a bad father and a bad husband. on the other hand, he said to his second wife, quite clearly that he was going to be engaging in relationships and she accepted it. >> the second wife? >> yes. >> that is elsa. >> yes, that doesn't excuse it, but he is not hypocrite call about it. >> did he have children with her? >> no, they were first cousins. >> was skitsfrania in the"e with some children, by her previous children? >> no, it was the second son by milava and he had a history of