robertson, however, stands firm. moments later, the team rushes the cell. the lead officer activates an electronic stun shield capable of delivering a 50,000-volt shock. temporarily incapacitated, robertson is finally removed from his cell and cuffed. robertson is then taken to a holding area to rinse the pepper spray from his eyes and face. >> oh, my god. you guys going to leave me here forever? >> no. no. >> you could at least be proud that i fought back and wasn't like a girl, mother [ bleep ]. >> you okay? thumbs up. thumbs up. >> now ain't nobody really got hurt. well, i ain't got hurt. because i ain't trying to really get hurt until i'm ready to get hurt. but if i do get hurt, well, that's just one of the consequences of doing battle. >> not far from robertson's cell is another inmate who is also known to treat prison like a war zone. >> this is one of my doodles. >> that's a pretty detailed doodle. >> well, i have plenty of time on my hands. >> for inmate john bright, plenty of time means a 99-year sentence for murder. >> i got in trouble for being a

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on monday's edition of the 700 club robertson had this analysis of petraeus/broadwell affair said -- >> the man's off in a foreign land and he's lonely and here's a good looking lady throwing herself at him. he's a man. >> as we mentioned, we are expecting to hear from president obama on these growing scandals later today. nbc news will have live coverage of the president's news conference from the east room at the white house beginning at 1:30 eastern time, 10:30 pacific right here on this nfc station. >>> now for your look at the weather, here's nbc bill karins. hopefully it's a little bit less complicated than this tangled web of information. it is very complicated. hopefully your weather forecast isn't like that. >> i don't have an eighth of the drama. i need some kind of love triangle in the weather office. good morning, everyone. here's what we're looking at in the forecast today. the temperatures have plunge bed in the east coast. if you're heading out this morning, do bundle yourself up in the northeast. temperatures are 20 to 30 degrees colder in the northeast than they were

says hey pat robertson is a dirty old preacher man.ys has something to say about other people when any kind of sex is the subject. gay or straight. rita disagrees with me. i'm sorry i think you're wrong in saying america needs to grow up and accept extramarital affairs. i didn't say that, rita. all i said is i don't think petraeus should have lost his job over it. frank says maybe we couldn't get obama out of the voter box. now we have something better, a sex scandal. we got bill clinton impeached. we're going to impeach this president as well and then john boehner will be president so ha, ha ha. ha ha, ha to you frank. this scandal does not touch barack obama. he didn't know about it. he didn't do it. he had nothing to do with it. eric cantor knew about it. maybe we should impeach eric cantor. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: good morning everybody. welcome to the "full court press." this wednesday morning november 14. oh, man. lots going on. congress back in session and trying to deal with the fiscal cliff. so is president obama. all anybody i

we're going to have pat robertson back. pat robertson saying the earth is very, very old.e should believe the artifacts and the paleontology. >>> finally, a real about-face for the guy who had the romney campaign logo tattooed on his face before the election in exchange for a $5,000 payment. when romney lost, he said he was keeping the tattoo anyway. you're going to lose your children and i believe in telling them the way it was. >> pat robertson with truth. then he caught wind of romney saying the president won the re-election by giving gifts to minority voters. now he says, quote, it stands not only for a losing campaign but for a sore loser. there's no dignity in blaming somebody else for buying votes and paying off people. i can't get behind that or stay behind that. well, a tattoo removal chain offered to remove the tattoo for free, and hartsburg is taking them up on it. they are predicting it will take seven to ten laser removal sessions to get rid of the whole thing. hartsburg says he will be more choosey about future political tattoos. >>> republicans know they are

on monday's edition of the 700 club robertson had this analysis of petraeus/broadwell affair >> she is an extremely good looking woman. she is a marathon runner. she'd run ironman try@they lons and so she's out running with him and she's writing a biography and i think the term is prop accusation quity. who knows, the man is off in a foreign land and here's a good looking lady throwing herself at him. he's a man. >> well, as we mentioned, we are expecting to hear from president obama on these growing scandals later today. nbc news will have live coverage of the president's news conference from the east room of the white house beginning at 10:30 pacific time. right here on this nfc station. >>> well, now for your look at the weather, here's nbc bill karins. good morning to you, bill. >> nothing so complex in my life. >> good. >> my weather life. >> oh. wow. >> and the other life, too. >> hey. >> let's include the whole universe in that. good morning, everyone. we are watching a nice quiet world in the weather world. temperatures remain cool if not seasonable for this time of year. some

on monday's edition of "the 700 club," robertson had this analysis of the petraeus/broadwell affair. >> she is an extremely good looking woman. she's a marathon runner so she's out running with him writing a biography and i think the permanent is proquintit. the man's off in a foreign land, and he's lonely, and here's a good-looking lady throwing herself at him. i mean, he's a man. >> we'll let you see how you feel about that. well, as we mentioned, we are expecting to hear from president obama on these growing scandals later today. nbc news will have live coverage of the president's news conference from the east room of the white house beginning at 1:30 eastern time the place for politics. >>> well, now for your look at the weather, here's nbc bill karins. scandal-free. >> as far as you know. you might have to dig a little deeper. better watch my e-mails. good morning, everyone. we are watching a nice quiet start to your day. heading out this morning in the northeast, be prepared for much colder temperatures than what you saw yesterday. you got a little taste of it going home from w

preachers like reverend jerry fallwell and pat robertson rose to national prominence. was credited for helping george w. bush win in 2004, with 79% of the evangelical vote. the atlantic writes about the end of evangelical dominance in politics but points out 79% of white evangelicals voted for romney on tuesday. the evangelical vote was 27% of the overall electorate, the highest it's ever been in an election. but guess what? it didn't matter. america rejected the culture wars. america rejected the religious rights agendas on issues after issue. abortion, gay marriage, rejected. is it the end of the evangelical force in politics? joining me now is frank schaeffer, columnist for "the huffington post," also author of "crazy for god." frank, thanks for being here tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> now, let me ask you, do you think the religious right poses a real problem for the gop? >> yeah, you know, before the election, not after, but before the election i wrote an op-ed for an evangelical progressive group called patheos.com, and they are open to liberal ideas. and i

pat robertson hosts -- he's an old guy, he hosts "the 700 club." day on the christian broadcasting network. pat seems to be getting a little loose. yesterday, he had a little segment about porn addiction. he has a young co-host on the show, he tried to get her involved, and watch. >> you are a mother. >> yes. >> and you are a sweet christian girl. lady. >> absolutely. >> all right. do you see anything in porn that attracts you at all? >> no, pat. these questions that you ask me, i'm like, really -- >> i'm trying to get your attitude. we always thought this was a male thing. >> yeah, yeah. >> a boy thing. a guy thing. >> yeah. >> but now, it looks like 30% of women -- >> yeah. >> are involved in pornography. >> yeah. >> pornography, that's a -- [ laughter ] combination of pornography and let a let rosy. there's a guy in north carolina, he's planning to be the first person to fly across the atlantic ocean using helium balloons. this is jonathan. he's going to attach 365 helium balloons to it. he could become the first man in history to die imitating

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let's turn to our guest hosts, julian robertson and emil henry.ger, llc, former assistant treasury secretary under president bush and economic adviser to the romney campaign. does it matter, how can the election here possibly determine what goes on in either china or europe, which are obviously very important too, to us, emil? >> china is one of the many pillars of governor romney's plan is to call china a currency manipulator. >> does that bother you in terms of raising the specter? >> no, there are many bright people on both sides of this but it doesn't and it doesn't for the very reason that it is, one, it is absolutely not in china's interest to have a trade war. it's not in their interest economically and it's not in their interest politically. remember these are, and this is where we get into geopolitical strategizing which is out of my realm of expertise for sure but this is holding on to power for a group of very few is a very important element. >> now you sound like you could be talking about the federal reserve in both cases. is ben bern

jay welcomes -- oscar-nominated actress, jennifer lawrence, from "duck dynasty," phil and willie robertson, the music of andy grammer, and "headlines." and now, jay leno! [ cheers and applause ] captions paid for by nbc-universal television captions by vita

the country's sports minister hugh robertson met his russian counterpart they thought it would call here in moscow and assured him that great britain's olympic expertise is now at russia's full disposal there is a fantastic opportunity at the moment for britain and russia to work together to. nations that take sport very serious say you've got a very exciting sporting future and in front of you you've had teams that have done very well in the paralympics we've got a lot in common and today's is about i hope a very positive relationship that i have with you and your minister and a really positive relationship between the two countries that running parallel to the olympic games is of course the paralympics with accessibility for fads and competitors high on the agenda now london held the most successful party big games of all time and they're excessive but it's a manager mark todd hopes that his lessons will be transferred to the black sea resort of sochi as well what's really good is that there's a very strong paralympic sport movement in russia and unfortunately should be great britain i

but now they have something common with grover norquist and pat robertson. chris christi waiting in. they think it is an over bloated federal disgrace that costs billions every year and gets us nowhere. all it does is he wrote our national population at a time when we need all the people we can get. we need all the creativity we can get. we need taxpayers. tavis: i am a chartered -- i am unsure i am arguing against this. is it the case that individual policy makers will often times were sometimes do the right thing for the wrong reasons? it is not that day come to appreciate, to respect and to revel in the humanity of these fellow citizens. it is that it is impacting my budget as governor of the state. what do you make of that reality? >> i share your discomfort about this and i will give you a story. when i was making the film, i met julie stewart who runs families against mandatory -- i urge people to look up fam as it is called. she talks about how the drug war may get mitigated because california cannot afford in meeting more. this state has to do it for

[laughter] her name when she was born was hetty hallins robertsons.big family in new england. that's where it went. yeah. >> so her children were not famous in any way? >> her son was quite well-known. he was -- she asked him to buy a small branch of a bankrupt railroad in texas in the 1890s, and he turned it into the most successful small railroad, the texas midland railroad, in the state, and then he did a number of things. he went back to new bedford, built a brand new house on the family property, and turned it into a center for radio technology and meteorology, gave it to the united states government during world war ii, and so he was -- he had one of the greatest collections of coins and stamps so he really made a mark for himself. yeah? >> one of the things that strikes me about the gilled age and the wealth is that there were a lot of wealthy people who believedded in giving back to society, particularly, andrew carnegie. did she donate money to public service? >> she never did it publicly. she would dismiss any suggestion that she had, but th

handle trade it's democratic party it's a christian coalition in the one nine hundred eighty pat robertson you've got to run at the local level you've got to get involved at the community level every county democratic party is organize within your county we have progressive democrats america are running slates of progressive democrats to pass resolutions in support of getting out of afghanistan in support of single payer at the county level you pass those resolutions you go to your county meetings then you're going to go to your state delegations just as they did in the tea party or that counterbalance go to the state parties run if you don't get through elected within your own neighborhoods it's something that's accessible to all of us it's a matter of taking the time to do it it's it absolutely is and that's always the challenge then isn't great but it's but it's actually quite painless people ready website tim thanks a lot for the great was always thank you toss to. speaking of progress listen carefully you'll hear the drug war breathing its last gasps following the story historic passa

while it sometimes predicts who gets the nomination, pat robertson won, mitt romney claimed the straw poll and last year michele bachmann took the poll. some want to end the poll. some said it outlived its usefulness. today, the right wing paper of record the national review child in. the editor said that: >> so, once again republicans are concerned about how their party looks not what their party stands for. they're fine having these crazy candidates they just don't like that ames shows how crazy they are. typical republican reaction to the election, cosmetic changes rather than dealing with the underlying problems. good luck with that, guys, and i mean guys. speaking of typical republican tactic, done no 1999 they started requiring voters to show i.d. to prove that they lived in iowa? before that, there was a lot of wait for it -- voter fraud. so that's where they got the idea for voter i.d. they aren't

skins quarterback robert griffin iii hits another rookie aldridge robertson, a 68-yard touchdown. one of four today. the skins win in dallas, 38-31. both teams five and six. >>> detroit loses its 9th straight thanksgiving day game. houston texans are nfl best ten and one. four different schools have won san francisco's last four turkey bowls and today lincoln defeats the defending champs. the mustangs beat mission in submission three weeks ago. 43-13 and today the mission bears and the white helmets come back. the bears have a 21-14 lead here and the mustangs score a td and then williams has a two point conversion, lincoln comes back to beat mission, 22-21. san jose bulldogs brought their undefeated record in the 70 annual big bone game at the san jose city college. the bulldogs punt and a great block here and wakes up poncho cruz and the lions beat the bulldogs for the 15th consecutive time, 55-13. the bull stays home at lincoln high. all american candidate matt core dorko led against van drexel. the point guard looks down low. pops one from long range. cal played in the direct t

skins quarterback robert griffin iii hits another rookie aldridge robertson, a 68-yard touchdown. one of four today. the skins win in dallas, 38-31. both teams five and six. >>> detroit loses its 9th straight thanksgiving day game. houston texans are nfl best ten and one. four different schools have won san francisco's last four turkey bowls and today lincoln defeats the defending champs. the mustangs beat mission in submission three weeks ago. 43-13 and today the mission bears and the white helmets come bk. the bears have a 21-14 lead here and the mustangs score a td and then williams has a two point conversion, lincoln comes back to beat mission, 22-21. san jose bulldogs brought their undefeated record in the 70 annual big bone game at the san jose city college. the bulldogs punt and a great block here and wakes up poncho cruz and the lions beat the bulldogs for the 15th consecutive time, 55-13. the bull sts home at lincoln high. all american candidate matt core dorko led against van drexel. the point guard looks down low. pops one from long range. cal played in the direct tv cl

the reverend jerry falwell and pat robertson both announced that the 9/11 was the result of homosexualityn america. and which was pretty farfetched. but i said, wait a minute, they're both from virginia! jerry falwell's from lynchburg, i went to the same college, what are they doing? what do you think they're doing? and that's "back to blood." they're both virginians, and you can't go around in front

into the hachbds patrick robertson. you can see he is going all way. a touchdown. a rough day for vick. he was sacked seven times. saints would be 21-3 at the half. third quarter, crazy play. that's riley cooper playing dead in the end zone during a kickoff. brannon boykin would field the kickoff and then pass across the field to an undetected kicker who will go 94 yards for the touchdown but there was a flag on the play. it was ruled to be an illegal forward pass. no touchdown. that kind of night for the eagles. 28-13, the final. their fourth straight loss. it drops them to 3-5 this season. you know that saying, baptism by fire? that's exactly what the wizards are doing with their pick, bradley beal. the 19-year-old is the second youngest to ever start in a game in the nba. so he is making history with his two starts so far. but unfortunately, he is not making much else. beal was given a warm welcome at the verizon center saturday night. he has struggled with his shot at home. just like on the road. in the two games he made two out of 13 shots from the field and s

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i want to thank my guests -- jennifer lawrence, phil and willie robertson and, of course, andy grammerrrow night, lindsey lohan will be here. but jimmy fallon's happening right now! jimmy! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> steve: from studio 6b in rockefeller center, the national broadcasting company presents -- tonight's guests are -- and featuring the legendary roots crew. and here he is -- jimmy fallon! [ cheers and applause ] captions paid for by nbc-universal television -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ♪ >> jimmy: hi, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] welcome. thank you so much for that. very nice. welcome to "late night with jimmy fallon," everybody. thank you for being here. it's gonna be a great show. here's what -- well, yeah. [ light laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] were you waiting for me to tell you who's on the show? is that what you're waiting for? [ light laughter ] we have zooey deschanel is on the show this evening. [ cheers and applause ] we have tony bennett on the show this evening. [ cheers and applause ] we have the zac brown band on the show this evening! [ ch

nic robertson has the story. ♪ >> reporter: happier days, the woman dancing with a friend.ow mourning her loss. the 31-year-old died in an irish hospital, refused an abortion that could have saved her life. as reported by the irish times, she was admitted to ireland's galway university hospital, sunday, 21st october, suffering back pain. she was 17 weeks pregnant. was miscarrying and told she'd likely lose her baby. seven days later, she was dead. she had pleaded her doctor for a termination, but for two and a half days while her fetus had a heart beat, they refused. >> they knew they can't help the baby, why they did not look at the bigger life. >> reporter: this demogathering, not just to remember sevita, but stop a repeat of her tranlic death. her husband is back in india, all coming to terms with the loss of a wife, a daughter, of a first grandchild. a death everyone here hopes won't be in vain, that will lead to a change in the irish abortion law. >> so horrible. the hospital will not comment on the details of the case, but they did send us a written statement saying t

cnn's nic robertson spoke with her husband. >> reporter: he has lost his wife and now fears the truthher tragic death may be lost, too. >> we've seen tampering of the medical cards, basically some key information is missing. >> reporter: praveen and savita halappanavar met in india, married, then set up home in ireland four years ago. he is an engineer, she was a dentist. they were happy here. >> she loved dancing. she forced me to dance with her on a couple of times on the stage. we gave a performance. and that will be the fondest memory i suppose. i have never gone onstage, i never had. i always had the stage fear to go and speak and the belief she gave me was unbelievable. >> reporter: together, they had dreams of a beautiful future, of children, their children, of having a family. >> she was looking forward, basically. in a way she felt she was at the right place. that's the reason why she knew and she was very well organized as well. she knew what she wanted in life. that's the reason why she had decided to settle here on the long term. >> when savita became pregnant they were ov

nic robertson, cnn, ireland. >> thanks for joining us. i'm tom foreman. >>> okay, stand by, piers. >> things have got pretty wild with some of my guests but nothing quite like this. what the hell's that? my studio's turned into a jungle. whoa! jack, am i going to die here? oh, my god, what's this? tonight, the one and only jack hanna and a few of his closest friends. >> he defecates on his legs to keep them cool. >> you know what, jack, too much information. >> if he bites you, it won't hurt bad. >> you won't believe this. this is the only one in the world to carry leprosy. >> now you tell me. >> never quite know what will happen next when jack hanna's in the house. he's got my notes. >> i'm sorry. that your notes? >> this is a very dangerous edition of "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening. welcome to a special "piers morgan tonight." as you can see, the studio looks a little different tonight. trust me, so will my guests that will be here over the course of the hour. we're talking cheetahs, foxes, owls, kimodo dragons. i'm here with

of course, during the campaign paul ryan, just like jerry falwell in the $1,980 and pat robertson in tried to claim that his party best represented the traditions of orthodox christianity. on one o kaths mr. ryan contrasted himself with the president proudly asserting his own faith. >> hey, i'm a catholic deer hunter. i am happy to be clinging to my guns and my religion. >> good try, mr. ryan, but it didn't work because his budget that bishops in his own church condemned as being more in touch with selfish, secular philosophy than the gospel of jesus christ, and then as the election got ever closer plshtion ryan took part in a last-minute conference call with evangelical christians. in a desperate attempt to play the religion card, mr. ryan accused the president of taking america on a dangerous path that restricts freedom and liberty and judeo-christian values. but that, too, didn't wash. in fact, in some states the president actually did better among white evangelicals than he did four years ago. and he also won more catholics than his republican challenger. and that should come as

we begin with jeanne robertson. she is the chief financial officer of a group called first book.if you could describe what it is to start with? >> yes, i just want to say thank you to c-span for all the incredible support you have given to the entire industry and the entire concept of reading and literacy. c-span has been a leader or not. and it is a wonder to meet you. it provides books and educational materials to programs and across the united states. >> how did you get started, and where you do you get your funding from? >> we started 20 years ago. in fact, we are celebrating our 100 millionth book being distributed this week, we started 20 years ago in washington dc. we have distributed more and more as the years have gone by, especially in recent years. we distributed 12 million year and we support programs across united states and now over 40,000. our funding comes from corporate marketing campaigns that we do, as well as individual donors and some foundations. but we have also created a revenue-generating model, which is the first part of marketplace. >> now, is there a s

>>> i'm thomas robertson for tamron hall on assignment. the political theater over the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary tim geithner is on capitol hill right now set to meet with nancy pelosi in less than an hour. earlier today geithner met behind closed doors with house speaker john boehner, senate majority leader harry reid and frank mcconnell. the word he used to describe the overall negotiations, disappointing. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. listen, this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. and this is a moment for adult leadership. campaign style rallies and one-sided leaks in the press are not the way to get things done here in washington. >> democrats today said they're confident a deal can be reached by christmas. but admit negotiations would need to pick up steam. as for senator reid, he says it's now up to the gop to make the next move. >> we're still waiting for a serious offer from the republicans. the pres

the reverend jerry falwell and pat robertson both announced that the 9/11 was the result of homosexualityn america. and which was pretty farfetched. but i said, wait a minute, they're both from virginia! jerry falwell's from lynchburg, i went to the same college, what are they doing? what do you think they're doing? and that's "back to blood." they're both virginians, and you can't go around in front of me talking about virginians in that, in that manner. so i think often we have two sets of beliefs. if you want to hear more of this theory thing, ity -- i think that everybody identifies themselves with a status group which if its beliefs were carved in stone, would make the group -- not yourself -- the group the most important in the world. i mean, i've been, i was in a country store during the second world war, and here were these three old, good old boys from north carolina just talking, and one of them says, you know -- they were talking about the war, second world war -- he says it all seems to lead back to this guy hitler. [laughter] he said instead of saying -- sending all these boa