we have reverend robin hoover, who was the founder of humane borders, who was criticized and has been criticized very heavily for just trying to, as he puts it, do gotd's work on the borde and protect people who are just coming trying to better their lives, and we also have dr. doug massey, who's been studying mexican migration across the border for 30 years, at least? at least. if there's anybody that understands the issue of why people come here and how long they plan to stay and what they do while they're here, it's dr. massey. so i will sit down and i will turn the podium over to bill montgomery who will lead off this discussion. bill? >> well, thank you very much, todd. appreciate the invitation to be here today, and i want to start off with establishing what my role is as i see it within the context of our immigration system within our country, share with you, then, some initial observations both from this morning and overall, and then my view towards what i think we need to be doing within the context of addressing immigration in the united states towards what i propose is a sa

hi, i'm robin hoover. for the last 31 years i've been a pastor in the christian church of christ and fond you of remain borders the folks that put water stations out in the desert in arizona and confound add few folks like sean hannity. i wanted to talk to you about some of the goals. i lecture around the united states and when i do, almost everywhere i go people, i'll ask them to raise hands. i do these informal polls. how many of you think that immigration is involved in national security and the hands go up. and rational people can argue how we're going to ration stuff. how many want flexible working conditions bi-nationally. hands go up. expand human rights, some hands go up. ours in a nation built on liberties, not on human rights but some of the things are similar. how many want a reduction in the noise along the border, all the hands go up. i will make one clarification and point here. i think, it's my experience that the border communities do suffer very significant financial cost and criminal just

i'm robin hoover. the last 31 is a been a pastor of the christian church, i'm found of humane borders for folks to put water stations out in the desert of arizona. i want to talk about some of the goals. i lecture around the united states. and when they do most everywhere i go, people, i'll ask them to raise his, i do these informal poll to come in and you that immigration is involved in national security. the hands go up and rational people can argue but how we're going to fix some of that stuff. how many of you want to flexible working conditions by national or multinational, and hands go up there coming at you want to expand human rights. some hands go up. ours is a nation built on liberty, not on human rights. but some of the things are similar but how many of the want of a reduction reduction in the noise along the border. all the hands go up. i will make one clarification point here. i think i'm it's my expense that the border communities do so for very significant financial cost and criminal jus

robin hood. >> the latest obama campaign stepping up attacks on romney and bain capital. here to look into it hilary rosen and margaret hoovere. let my start with you hilary. is this the obama strategy, you think? >> it's certainly one of them. first and foremost, president obama has to campaign on his vision for america going forward. but there's no question that mitt romney is kind of walking away from his governor of massachusetts and telling the -- based of his experience. i think the obama campaign is completely fair game. >> hang on a second. how does it look for someone like cory booker who has been one of obama's staunchest supporters, a leading democratic figure, a hot rising star as newt gingrich put it. for him to turn on barack obama in this way. and he definitely did. whether he tries to back pedal now. i'm a big fan of his, to say it was nauseating and to really take him head on on what is clearly going to be one of the bigger obama attack weapons against mitt romney was a fascinating split, i felt, in the democratic hierarchy. what did you make of that? >> it was but i have empathy with cory booker and misspea