robin wright is a journalist and author who new ambassador stevens personally and reported exnsively from libya. and frank wehrey is a senior associate with the carnegie endowment for international piece. robin wright, tell us about ambassador stevens. >> chris was an extraordinary envoys in that he understood the streets, as well as the elite. he spoke language. he understood the culture dispp he had seen libya through three of its faces. he spent two years as the number two during muammar qaddafi's rule at the american embassy. and he state department year during the transition as the liaison to the traditional national council in libya based in bengazhi, and then he returned to establish the american embassy in the post-gaddafi era. he was willing to get out, willing to face the dangers of a country with 300 militias, going through a fragile transition, and try to change a country that had been the nemesis of the united states for four years to an ally. >> ifill: frank wehrey, did any of this surprise you? did it seem unusual? the latest reports we're hearing was this attack was a

joining suss robin wright, a joint fellow at the u.s. institute of peace and woodrow wilson center. she was a close personal friend of ambassador stevens. robin, such a sad day for all of us, especially for someone like you who knew him for 20 years. listen to the secretary of state at the memorial service today. >> people loved to work with chris. and as he rose through the ranks, they loved to work for chris. he was known not only for his courage but for his smile, goofy but contagious, for his sense of fun and that california cool. >> you knew him for about 20 years. you were at his swearing in ceremony when he became the ambassador. talk a little bit about how this has impacted you. i know even last week you were in touch with him about an upcoming trip to libya. >> chris was an extraordinary man, craving for curiosity about this part of the world, was willing to go anywhere. this was his third tour in libya. he'd also served in syria, the palestinian territories and in saudi arabia. he was willing to take on these tough assignments over and over and over again, yet he did have t

robin wright is the author of the book "rock the casbah." jamie, the muslim brotherhood calling off nationwide protests, apparently scaling down the reaction to that film. why? what are we seeing here? >> well, i think what we're seeing is the government of egypt, president mursi, who was a member of the muslim brotherhood, i'm sure they coordinate their activities, and i think they're responding to the phone call from president obama. i think they realize that in the first 24 hours after this terrible programdy, the images coming out of egypt were not of a friend. they were mixed messages coming from the government in terms of condemning the attacks on the united states, while condemning the film that allegedly started all of this. so on the streets in egypt, you know, you're seeing, in a sense, the first wave of protests were democracy. the second wave of protests are islamic extremism, and it's those two forces that will determine how they interact, how they develop, who wins the battles of the politics of extremism inside egypt will dete

robin wright, and a high lay respected middle east export "time" magazine's editor bobby ghosh. film, and the politics. >> did you watch a little bit of that film? >> it is so amateurish. cartoonish is what someone said from washington. >> the fact that lives could be lost over something that's so poorly done. >> sure. >> and the cast and crew is just appalled, completely feel like they were duped by the producer. they had no idea what they were doing. >> and the character was -- >> think about an adventure movie, how social media helped the arab spring and now it's something that could be spread on youtube that's hurting. >> thank you, brooke. and up next, the islam bashing filmmaker identified. the man who made the short, shoddy and offensive film that sparked the deadly protests. and we go to his house. miguel marquez with the details ahead. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady,

stand by, i want to bring in the middle east expert, robin wright right now. she was a long-time friend of ambassador stevens. she's a joint fellow at the u.s. institute of peace and the woodrow wilson center here in washington. also tim romer is here, former u.s. ambassador to india, a former policy adviser to the obama campaign. thanks to both of you coming in. when the president of the united states says justice will be served, these killers will be brought to justice, that says to me if the libyan government doesn't find them, the u.s. will find them, arrest them, detain them, and kill them if necessary. that's what it says to me. what does it say to you? >> well, i think the united states is already playing a role in sending fbi forces to help investigate, find out who was responsible. but i think the thing that was so striking about chris was that he would have wanted them to be brought to justice under a rule of law that reflected the transition libya has made from a truly autocratic state where justice was never guaranteed to one where you could see th

i spoke with robin wright. thank you for coming in. has the tyranny of the dictator in the middle east been replaced by the tyranny of the mob? >> that is the great danger, and the fact that this has moved into three days has become increasingly worrisome. whether this is like what we saw in 1979 with the takeover of the u.s. embassy, which dragged on for 144 days. these models are not very small. the first demonstration in egypt was very large. this is in stark contrast to the hundreds of thousands of people who turned out against of the mubarak. it seems more of these are unemployed, young, of kinds of bugs -- thugs, the disenfranchised at the moment. this is an awful transition. the pain we have seen over the last three days underscores that. >> and yet people say it how can the ambassador to libya be killed when it america helped overthrow colonel gaddafi? >> in many ways, this is the most tragic country. the u.s. and nato went in and used military muscle to do what the libyan troops on the ground could not do, and that was to take

the series stars kevin spacesy and robin wright and has been filming in baltimore. the show deals with politics and is set the in washington. those trying out for a role are asked to bring a current head shot and photograph. >>> to be -- >> you could play a capitol hill staffer. come on. >> i could do that. >> you're a washington type. get over this. by the way, if you don't have a head shot, you can bring just a snap shot. >> have you ever done a movie? >> no, i have not. i'm not an actress. i'm a critic. i review things. >> i have a small thing about half a second in homicide. that was it. >> you weren't bitten by the bug, i guess? >> i was in college. oh, yeah. it was great. i used to minor in the stuff. >> we're on the air right now. >> i'm sorry. hey, max. how you doing? >> it's easy to talk about movies. talk about everything. >> there's on one movie to review this week. it's best. the movie is called "the words." it stars bradley cooper. i love the premise for this film. i wish it were a better film. the premise is bradley cooper is an aspiring writer and can

. >> reporter: robin wright knew r him for 25 years. she remembered he would work the streets frequently wherever heen was tlposted in the arab world.o >> he really got out, and he knew everybody, and was willing to risk his life over and over. he took a cargo boat intoin banghazi, and when it wasit understand moamar. m >> robin write believes it stevens had survived the attack, he would have urged the u.s. toh continue to engage with the people and the government of libya. chris stevens was 52 years old. wain washington, john hanrahan, fox 5 news. >>> more details tonight about ambassador chris stevens.ad s as we mentioned, stevens serve two tours in libya as was nfirm as ambassador earlier this year. he was the first u.s. ambassador to be killed in an attack since 1979: he was first kidnapped by militants, and executed. >>> muslim and interfaith leaders came together to condemo the deaths of the americans inin libya. here's more. >> the action of those people -- [ inaudible ] there for, this reaction of thi violence is the principles

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. >> i want to bring in robin wright, who is the u.s. foreign policy, and she was a friend of ambassador stevens. thank you for being with us and our condolences for the loss of your friend. >> thank you. >> i know you heard what secretary clinton had to say, and what else would you want us to know about the ambassador? >> chris was a tremendously important influence both in shaping u.s. and foreign policy but also in trying to reengage libya a. new libya, and change the relationship that had been frankly hostile. he was the best of the american diplomats. he knew the streets as well as the elites. he knew the language and culture and he got it. at this critical juncture in defining what succeeds some of the world's leading autocrats. he was helping the issues involved in a new constitution, to help them understand the rule of law, and to help them deal with the issues of development and how do you help them imemploy, many of the men who were in militias, and that are still in the cities, so he was still playing an important role. >> how

with us is robin wright a senior fellow at the u.s. institute of peace and a distinguished scholar at the wilson center and also the author of "the islamists are coming." you told chuck todd these current protests are smaller than the ones in the arab spring and these current protests are a fight inside the islamic world. they have little to do with the west. explain that for me. >> well, i think we need to understand the broader context of what's happening across the region, and it's at a delicate time. this is a moment of transition for many countries, and there are a lot of different players jockeying for power. there are ultra conservatives involved at the initial protest at the u.s. embassy in cairo who are trying to push their ideas in the new order, in writing a new constitution, in defining who will rule the country. i think we need to be very careful in comparing these. these were tiny, almost everywhere compared to the hundreds of thousands and in some cases millions of people that took to the streets to challenge dictators.

robin wright is a distinguished scholar at the woodrow wilson international center and the he editorf a new book, islamists are coming who they really are, that is the title of the book. our condolences, i know that you were friends with ambassador stevens for more than 25 years. our hearts go out to you and his family. really a loss for the entire country. >> it's a loss for the united states because he was such a caring diplomat he knew the streets as well as the elites. he spoke the language, understood the culture. he also appreciated this extraordinary transition across the middle east and what was involved in trying to help stabilize it and change relations that had been hostile in the case of libya for 40 years. he's a loss to the libyan people as well. jenna: we'll talk a little bit about libya here, then i want to talk to you about egypt, because we see these two events happening at embassies in both of these countries. first to libya, though, we hear about this call for justice, from our ohno figureses, for the libyan officials. how do you interpret that? what does that rea