. >> so as far away as robinson crusoe? how far do you want to go? >> yes, i like those those. >> the point about relevance, as a quick one, there are things that are ancient that are relevant in young people's lives. if if anyone knows of a better comparison of peer pressure than augustine's story or the iliad where hector has won some victories and acuities have this left the field. he gets a little full of himself and he brings his army outside the walls of troy and they're doing great but then things start to turn. hector realizes, okay, i've made a mistake. they are running back inside the walls but hector feels responsible. he feels stupid and he doesn't want to show any car coward as him. he's standing outside against the wall and his mother and father are saying get inside. it's impenetrable. he's sitting there and they're just standing back and we see this point of life coming toward him. his achilles coming. the great warrior. at that moment, hector's courage , he wills and loses his will. i said earlier when this came up, you take a hundre

. >> far away, robinson crusoe, is that how far you want to go? >> i like both of those. >> point about relevance, a quick one, there are things that are ancient, relevant in young people's lives. if anyone knows about a better rumination on adolescent peer pressure, augustine's study of what happens in that pear orchard that night, i don't know what it is, or i mentioned this earlier when we were talking, the iliad, the section where hector has won some victories, achilles has left him, he gets full of himself and brings his army outside the walls of flight and things start to turn and hector realizes i made a mistake, they are running back inside the walls that hector feels responsible, and doesn't want to show cowardice so he is standing outside the walls. his mother and father are up there, get inside, on walls of troy are impenetrable, and he is sitting there, they are standing back and see a point of light coming for him. it is the achilles coming, the great warrior. at that moment hector's courage, he loses his will. i said to peter earlier