>> robinson reisner. and was awn migs hotshot pilot. he was on the cover of time magazine in 1965. he was shot down and captured in september of 1965. in october of 1965, they andized that he was famous that they had somebody famous. they realized that he was exercising leadership as a senior ranking officer in the camp and came after him in a big way. that is when the big, bad torture started in 1965. when i got there in 1967, he had been the reigning senior ranking officer. we called him the sro. what an incredible leader to us. he was an inspiration and a tough leader. he led by example and, like denton, stockdale, other great leaders, they other went -- they always went first. they thought that if they could break them, we would follow. that was what was so amazing about this experience. seeing this extraordinary leadership, the courage that enabled him to lean into the pain of their fears and do the right thing to the best of their ability. i use the term, who was he, on purpose. >> he died six weeks ago and we were having his funeral tomorrow. >> what did he do for the rest o