robyn: yes.ncine: is it -- should it have been earlier? are you optimistic about the future for females in finance? robyn: i am hopeful that we are going to see a better reflection of difference at the top of every organization, be it financial services or broader than that. has it been a long time coming? i can't help but say, listen, it would be terrific to have seen more female ceo's before me. and i hope we are going to see a lot after me. but difference is important, and i think anything that enables us to put the most talented people at the top of organizations, and to lead those organizations with enthusiasm and capability is what we are after. so i am hopeful that i am knocking down some doors, barriers, ceilings. francine: i mean, the first time someone meets you, it is like, the infectious energy, right, that people notice. is that how you lead? robyn: yes. it is one of those things. i have been accused of being many things over my time, but that sort of slight duracell bunny, ever-read