of some difficulty because the then for the secretary, robyn cook and protest against the military takeover and pakistan where it was refusing to acknowledge or recognize of give full diplomatic credence to those. how did you handle that particular difficulty as appointed as high commission? it was a difficult posting and i think it was just before 911. so pac sun was seen as a prior to my job was to really try to just keep its head above water, which i did. i had desperately reached out and made contacts, built bridges, and but i was having trouble all the time because of the reality of the situation in pakistan. for example, i invited the archbishop of canterbury george carrier not getting paid to park son and he agreed. and it was a wonderful the agreement because if he came, we could have genuine interface discussion impacts on ensure that box sounds very much part of this global attempt to create regions. and, but i will shut down by the black signing fun. so the service because they believe that and they're influenced by some writing, thinking officials who's had no, we can't do that