to me what it's like to be there for the hundreds of thousands of people who continue to migrate aro roc borders looking for food? >> in the horn of africa currently 12 million families are affected by hunger due to the drought. it's a complex emergency we have. one aspect of the emergency is the drought and the lack of rainfall. it's the worst drought in the last 60 years for the horn of africa. that's also compounded with lack of humanitarian access to some areas of the horn of africa. difficult logistically to reach families. and all of the impacts combined make the humanitarian crisis even greater than just drought or just limited humanitarian accesses. >> belva: you're working with mercy corp. what's their approach to trying to do something about this huge problem? >> at mercy corp we do our best to find the balance between delivering immediate assistance, immediate food to families who are unable to access it while at the same time rebuilding communities and local economies. we don't want to undermine local economies while we deliver assistance. so in delivering assistance like foo

the quadrennial review process the g j roc process which looks that threats versus resources and something called the g eight work up process now i've involve myself in all of these back when i was inside as a planner these are complex processes which take years to accomplish and no politician is going to do something to make a decision that would cut the budget and so any substantial way even if it's a backstop even if it's arbitrary because no one either side wants to be held accountable for making a bad decision if something goes wrong that's the bottom line so to me this is all just smoke and mirrors no one is going to make it hard decisions so i think on the face of it you and i would agree there's homes and programs for redundancy and effective programs i know of several myself which are totally waste just just people briefing each other and being paid a lot of money to do it i mean literally with that program exists in our government i know about it directly i think all i did was get to it is i'll get a lot of calls probably at the bottom of his will talk about are you going to try