but -- even after the war, washington came to rely on rochambeau's advice. he said we have lived together as brothers which is one of the reasons why my book is so titled. so this is something that if you've ever been in uniform, no matter who you're serving with, the bonds between people who are fighting in a common cause far outweight any differences that the nationalities might have cause for division. in my period that i covered, it was more that band of brothers idea that brought the two together. then, of course, things changed. >> yeah, i mean there's this -- it's a really funny, you know, paradoxical relationship. it is french/american relationship. for a long time it was a british french relationship. they had been at war just ten years earlier like you were saying. they had been at war really for a century. the new england colonists had been fighting french settlers. and anti-catholicism was a big part of british, political culture and self-identity. and then the revolution comes along and all of a sudden they're all french. they've got pictures of