a rockefeller-reagan kick-in. but who was going to be on top? rockefeller wasn't going to be number two to reagan. and ronald reagan, i think if he had gone with nelson rockefeller to deny nixon the nomination, he would have really damaged himself with conservatives. >> rockefeller went on to become president with gerald ford. >> let's go to chris conway. >> hi, mr. buchanan. i had a question. i think it's fair to say that in 1968 you were fairly involved in the republican party, but by 2000, you ran as a reformed candidate and expressed some kind of dissatisfaction with the state of the party. could you tell me what kind of shift you saw and what you see as the state of the party today? >> well, there were about three or four issues i ran on in '92 and '96. one, 20 years ago now, i said if we don't get control of our border, you can have 10 to 20 million illegal aliens in the country, which we do. we didn't get control of it. i said your trade policies are going to destroy the manufacturing base of this country.

you mentioned nelson rockefeller. >> you couldn't take rockefeller. it would have torn the party apart. rockefeller by 1968 was an aid v add vis sear of goldwater. i think what nixon did and the last two he thought of is one reason he picked agnew. agnew had a very good record on civil rights. he had run against george your home is your castle mahoney in the '66 election to win. that's when i wrote the -- >> as maryland's governor. >> i said it's the party of maddox, mahoney and wallace. they were all very anti-civil rights. so we got agnew for two reasons. one reason was that during the riots in april -- even though he was strong on civil rights, he had called in these civil rights leaders and asked why aren't you condemning the violence? the objection a lot of people made was he brought in tv cameras and read him the riot act. i took agnew's statements and marked them up and sent those things in to nixon. he was very impressed by his toughness. he was very impressed by the time he met agnew. agnew had been rockefeller's number one booster. so agnew

, and rockefeller had no interest in nixon winning -- i mean, if rockefeller wants to be president, the best way is for nixon to lose the election. so rockefeller has very little interest in helping nixon win new york state or the election, either one. so i think having a weak republican party, you know, the party was really hurt by the 1958 elections, and so that really made a difference and it made it much harder for nixon to run in 1960 than it would have been had the governor -- republican governors who had been elected earlier in the '50s, had they still been in office. >> i think it helped a lot. one thing you had mentioned in your talk is the power of the uaw throughout the '50s, but the interesting thing about michigan is it's a ticket splitting state. had a democratic governor in '60, 1962 john swenson takes over. george romney gets himself elected in '64 and remained in republican hands for quite a long time. it was a master stroke. how many votes romney carried, there was no way of knowing when people voted that romney was going to become secretary -- the hud secretary, but i

particularly impressed with himself that he was able to turn nelson away from rockefeller. and you covered a person who was critically important to nixon's electoral success and is also not mentioned very much and that is george romney in turning the michigan -- the michigan election. so my question for you is am i correct in assuming that nixon had a great deal of skill in terms of working with the executives so as to maximize his political success in those states starting with rockefeller and then with romney? well let's go back to nixon's problems with the ten most populist states with the republican governors and one is discredited william straten on his way out and nelson rockefeller and they had no interest in nixon winning. >> the best way is for nixon to lose the 1960 election. so rockefeller has very little interest in winning new york state or win the election, either one. so i think having a weak republican party was really hurt by the 1958 elections and so that really made a difference and it makes it much harder for nixon to run and it had been the republican g

rockefeller: i thank you, mr. president. the problem we face here is that a lot of -- most people are in the air, coming this direction. most will land around 5:00. so senator hutchison and i don't feel any particular pressure. we can talk for long periods of time, talk about other things. mr. president, today we are considering the f.a.a. conference report, which has been the subject of negotiations. i shudder when i say that -- between the house and the senate for much of the past year and actually we've been working on it for much longer than that. we have been through 23 extensions. we are now looking at the possibility of a bill that will in fact last for four years, which would be the best news that the airline industry ever had, that the people who work for the airline industry has ever had, that the people who provide the safety for the airline industry have ever had. so i'm very happy that the f.a.a. modernization reform act of 2012 will extend the authorities through 2015. the president is awhich are we've sort of

. >> thank you very much, senator rockefeller. i have a date of breach law that has been pending for some time. next is senator conrad. >> thank you, madam chairman, thank you to you and the vice chair of this committee for conducting this committee in such a thoroughly professional way. i have really enjoyed my service on this committee and it is in no small measure because of the leadership of this committee. it's a very good example for the rest of the senate. i also want to thank all of those who are here testifying on behalf of the intelligence community. let me add my voice with respect to press reports reflecting on director petraeus by these unseen, unnamed sources -- as far as i am concerned, these people who work behind the cloak of anonymity attacking people are cowards. if they have something to say about somebody, if they want to have some credibility, they ought to have the courage to stand up and say it and put their name behind it. i say to the press they ought to quit printing anonymous attacks on people. it does

senator rockefeller, mr. chairman, we welcome your testimony now. >> thank you, chairman lieberman and ranking member collins. you are quite right about that. i think senator reid once this on the floor as soon as possible, and the thing that scares me more than anything is the fact we have had so many hearings coming and yet that was necessary to get to the agreements that we have come to and they are solid now, rock solid, but we still have to find the time for it. this isn't going to be an easy time so the pressure is on this conference on both the house and the senate to come through on this in the face of all this danger is huge, and not yet guaranteed. i think our government needs a leave civilian agency to coordinate our civilian cybersecurity efforts, and that the agency should of course be the department of homeland security under the superable leadership of janet napolitano. i want to emphasize our bill represents expertise as both of you have said, the three senate committees, and that is as it sho

senator rockefeller, mr. chairman. we welcome your testimony. >> thank you. you are quite right about that. the thing that scares me more than anything is the fact the we had so many hearings and yet that was necessary to get to the agreements we come to and they are solid now. rock-solid. we still have to find the fourth time. this is not going to be an easy time to do that. pressure is on this congress and the house and the senate to come through on this in the face of all this danger, is huge and not yet guaranteed. our government needs a civilian agency to coordinate our civilian cybersecurity efforts and that agency should be the department of homeland security. under the leadership of secretary napolitano. artwork that both of you have said, three senate committees, that is as it should be. we have eagerly sought as you mentioned and received constructive criticism and input. i can remember giving a speech two years ago, a business group preventing ideas that we had for this. even when people refuse to engage with us, there has been that even within the

senator rockefeller, mr. chairman, we welcome your testimony now. >> thank you, chairman lieberman and ranking member collins. you are quite right about that. i think senator reid once this on the floor as soon as possible, and the thing that scares me more than anything is the fact we have had so many hearings coming and yet that was necessary to get to the agreements that we have come to and they are solid now, rock solid, but we still have to find the time for it. this isn't going to be an easy time so the pressure is on this conference on both the house and the senate to come through on this in the face of all this danger is huge, and not yet guaranteed. i think our government needs a leave civilian agency to coordinate our civilian cybersecurity efforts, and that the agency should of course be the department of homeland security under the superable leadership of janet napolitano. i want to emphasize our bill represents expertise as both of you have said, the three senate committees, and that is as it sho

senator rockefeller, mr. chairman, we welcome your testimony now. >> thank you, chairman lieberman, ranking member collins. you are quite right. senator reid once this on the floor as soon as possible. the thing that scares me is that we have had so many hearings, and they are solid rock-solid, but we still have to find a floor time for it. this is not going to be an easy time to do that. the pressure is on this congress both of the house and senate, to come through on this. i think our government needs a civilian agency to coordinate our civilian cybersecurity efforts. that agency should be the department of homeland security. under the super leadership of janet napolitano. our bill represents expertise and hard work, as both of you have said. that is as it should be. we have eagerly saw, as you mentioned, and received a constructive criticisms and input from a whole lot of places. i remember giving a speech two years ago to a business group presenting ideas that olympia snowe and i had. they were surprised

he was a rockefeller republican in the great goldwater battle, where conservativism came of age.i do think this, though. newt has been pounded managers leslie, had people he worked with basically turn on him and dump on him down there in florida, which somehow i think may have had some role in the fact that the great fighter and battler of south carolina had no fight in him whatsoever in the monday and thursday debatesç in florida. he let mitt romney punch him silly. and he has lost all his momentum. and john, i'm not going to make any prediction but i thought the battle of south florida would win florida, but romney is surging and it looks like he may win florida. and if he does, it's all over. >> eleanor? >> gingrich was a backbencher during the reagan years and more of a thorn in their side. but there is a video clip of nancy reagan in 1995, after gingrich had led the republicans to power in washington, saying the torch has been passed from ronnie to newt. so he has some claims on that era. but that's not -- that's not his problem, is he reagan enough. he's been promiscuous th

>>> from nbc news, this is "today" with kathie lee gifford and hoda kotb, from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> hello, everybody, it's wines day, wednesday, one of our favorite days of the week, and it is the first day of february, usually i'm delighted about that, because it's the shortest month of the year, and it's usually so freaking freezing around here. but it's been like -- >> they say it's going to get up to 60 degrees in new york today. that is astonishing. >> so there's good news and bad news. the bad news is that it's wednesday wines day. the bad news is there's a birth control recall. and you thought you were safe! pfizer is recalling about a million of these. packets of birth control because they may not contain just not enough contraception. darn it! so close. >> usually when you get birth c like the sugar pills. >> how do you know? >> apparently there were too many of those sugar pills, so you weren't getting enough of the active stuff. >> you were getting a placebo. >> exactly. any way, that's the case. i'm sure this is sh

rockefeller, senator rockefeller is spoken about his frustration with the exit of branch. i'm frustrated with the legislative branch. we have the turf battles on the policies and so on. he has a great policy. i hope we moved. so let me get three issues comer urgency, the policy particularly on the government's and the need to a bipartisan commodity among ourselves to pass the bill. let me get to the government issue and it goes to the director clapper and then ms. wagner and director mueller commesso the question is who is in charge? we all did all over the government's issue. article 10, article 50, homeland security, is it dot mil etc. so let's take our president. he is at the democratic convention and the lights go out in san diego. he turns to napolitano and says what is this? and the lights go out for maybe three hours. the lights go out in boston, etc.. so he turns to napolitano and says what the hell are we doing here and what can we do? my question is napolitano in charge? we know the president is in charge. we know the president is in charge, but what is the presi

we've killed off the rockefeller republicans.n 2008 we had one candidate running that was pro-abortion, one candidate that didn't want to, but we have killed rockefellers all of them. on half conservative positions now. i think romney is appealing. he is gentlemanly. this that is what you need looking at reagan how he ran in 1980. it's hard to take out an incumbent presidency and the media will take any about it, non-fox media, because you have the biggest ratings in the business. now it's non-fox. but taking any economic news isn't bad news. look at him the economy. bush created 2.2 million jobs. obama has lost half a hill million jobs. >> sean: actually 1.6 million from the day he became president. >> is that right? >> sean: that is a column for you. >> are you sure? >> sean: tax the rich. now, he is using class warfare and quoting jesus. >> in any event, bush had the dotcom bubble, but and there was an earthquake in japan. lowest unemployment numbers was date that obama took office. now, they are almost as low the day he took

i think rockefeller republicans have been dead for a long time and people against gingrich pat buchanan and s cowl cowl who hardly seem like moderate centrists. it's an interesting fight within the party. >> greta: you and i had a discussion about governor romney. everybody has been running the sound bite. >> something fat fact protecting the poor and if it's in need of repair i'll fix it. discussion and said what the programs were and so forth. this will undoubtedly haunt him as some of the other comments that point to him as rich guy and someone out of touch with the rich people all the way to the fall convention to the fall election if, indeed, he is the nominee. my sense of that particular comment the people that will be most upset about that comment and think it's the most telling, probably wouldn't vote for mitt romney anyway but that is just a guess. >> greta: if he runs the risk, it's going to be edited -- but in his campaign. he quoted president obama supposedly when it wasn't president obama quoting john mccain. >> i felt it was if you are romney supporter that would have been

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they ended up with goldwater because of marital problems on the part of rockefeller. they didn't really fall in love with the guy. it is so interesting, isn't it so fascinating? i know you're not reliving '64, but i am. >> at the cow palace, chris. thanks, man. >>> extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. coming up the obama administration decision to require religious institutions to pay for birth control remains, actually it is getting hotter. can the obama administration figure its way out? you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. ♪ we were skipping stones and letting go ♪ [ female announcer ] nature valley granola bars, rich dark chocolate, toasted oats. perfect combinations of nature's delicious ingredients, from nature valley. ♪ nature valley granola bars, nature at its most delicious. >>> now quinnipiac poll numbers from the battleground state of virginia. let's check the "hardball" scoreboard. in the presidential race president obama has the edge over mitt romney. a big gain there. he's taken a four-point lead. obama in virginia 47% to 43%. in late decembe

other rich politicians never did seem to know how regular americans left like nelson rockefeller and george h.w. bush. remember when bush was discovering the wonders of a smrkt scanner? he had never seen one before. republican leaders are tear tied he is in the same category. he put his electricityability in question this week. -- his electability in question this week. are they worried is in this guy a good politician? >> absolutely. people on the left think conservatism is a monolithic thing, but there are gradations of it. if he is the nominee, it doesn't really matter. nixon says you run to the the right in the the primaries and to the center in the general lexi. that is what is going to happen. conservatives have no other place to go. >> but is he a good politicians, which was raised this week when he says things like i don't want to think about the very poor or the very rich? >> he has to quit making gavins. we will forget about it when the general rolls around. >> michael continuesly once said a gavin in politics is when you say what you really think. >> it is a mirror into hi

i hope white know buy rockefeller center too. i don't want to minimize the challenge, it's going to be serious but the question is how are we relative to them. and let's not forget and there's a lot of writing about this right now with xi's visits. that china faces a lot of problems themselves domestically, certainly, they face huge social problems, huge problems keeping all their economic growth. but also strategically they are surrounded by major mowers. japan, india, korea, all of who is nervous about china's rise all who look to united states for support. >> charlie: do you think we have the right strategy to take advantage of that, that those countries would surround china want to have a very smart and constructive relationship with the united states and a strategy for the future. >> i think actually, on this issue the obama administration has struck a very nice balance. i think they have, yo clearly attempted to maintain a reasonable engagement with china, but when they talk about this pivot to asia, i think the chinese and

. >>> 5:45 in the morning, beautiful picture of rockefeller plaza. a check on the weather from todd santos in this week for bill karins, good morning. >> willie, good morning. you think an ice rink it doesn't fit in new york city at the moment we will see better chance for snow in new york city itself in early saturday morning, a brief window. belt e i've widened out the radar, snow toward chicago, they could get one to three inches starting later this afternoon, that could be travel issues. beyond that, a few showers crossing in the mississippi valley, that will be the antagonist for the snow on the east coast working into saturday. current temperatures in boston, 31, 35 in new york. cool air back toward northwest great lakes, it will be filtering down slowly toward the east, not so much here for today, it is here for tomorrow especially through western new york and boston could get two to four inches. a little bit of winter. >> looking like winter, thank you, todd. >>> sports now, tiger woods still looking to get the magic back. he won the first to

there is one human institution that makes the pauper the equal of the rockefeller. the stupid man equal of an einstein. the ignoreant man the equal of any college president. that institution, gentlemen, is a court. our court system has its faults, as do all other human institutions. our courts are the great levelers. and in our courts all men are created equal. i know idealists to believe firmly in the integrity of our court and our jury system. that's a living, working reality. gentlemen, a court is only as good as every man of you sitting before me on this jury. a court is only as sound as its jury and a jury is only as sound as the men who make it up . i'm confident that you will review without passion the evidence you have heard, come to a decision and restore this defendant to his family. in the name of god, do your duty. in the name of god, believe him. [applause] >> what you heard was a literal translation of the book word for word, and we have to remember that this book was written just at the onset of the civil rights movement. so we're going to talk about

that is one reason why we're supportive of the leroy collins/rockefeller bill. >> you included it in the three central threats? >> i did. >> thank you again. thanks for your service. i appreciate your time this morning. >> thank you, senator udall. senator sheehan. >> thank you for being here. i hate to keep you past the noon hour, so i will try to be quick. last year in the midst of the libyan operation, senator collins and i wrote to the administration expressing concerns that i know you share about libya's vast arsenal of unsecured man portable man systems. considering that these pose a continuing threat and they are an estimated 20,000 still out there, i will have the committee give us a report as part of the ndaa authorization. i just wanted to say i look forward to hearing from you about that subject because it is clearly going to continue to be a concern. >> it is a concern. you are quite right about the estimate that we had before the gadhafi demonstration