the rockefeller foundation consulted with experts, including dr.e emanuel, to create a national plan to increase the number of coronavirus testing to 30 million people per week. the plan is estimated to cost $100 billion, which the study calls a modest investment under the circumstances. the second part of the plan calls for a paid covid community health care core of up to 300,000 workers to perform contact tracing. the third part of the plan envisions a common data and digital platform to share realtime analysis of resource allocations, disease tracing results, and patient medical records. joining us now is dr. zeke emanuel, he served in the clinton and obama administrations. he's now the vice provost at the global initiatives for university of pennsylvania and an msnbc senior medical contributor. zeke, the rockefeller foundation plan is the most ambitious i've seen. how do you get to that level of testing? >> well, they don't suggest that it would happen overnight. they have suggested that you would ramp up over time that you would have an emerge

rockefeller the 3rd together they wanted to curb the large numbers of children worldwide. so you have the system where people at every level were being given body money from united states from the united nations from sweden from norway to agree to sort of our money to get other people to agree to sterilization prenatal sex determination was the biggest breakthrough in population control this way girls were aborted on mass. daughters are weeded out in china as well one in 5 boys presently born were later not be able to find a wife. u.s. president richard nixon and his secretary of state henry kissinger arrived in beijing in 1972 it was a historic meeting with moussa tung about the balance of power and the mutual commitment to world peace. there is no reason for us to be enemies. neither of us domination over the other. neither of us think. and way the world. but the fear of the americans of chinese supremacy and thus the supremacy of communism was great and the fear that chinese population growth seemed unstoppable . after nixon's visit the floodgates opened for western fam

joining us is the president of the rockefeller foundation. they're working on a new plan to drastically try to increase testing in the u.s. to 30 million people per week. and you know, that's the question, right? how can we have enough testing to make sure that people are safe to go back to their somewhat normal lives until there's a vaccine? you called your testing plan the 1-3-30 plan. what is it, and is the government onboard? >> well, thank you for having me. the rockefeller foundation pulled together scientists, industry leaders, former administration officials from both democratic and republican administrations, epidemiologists and others, and really put forth this 1-3-30 plan, which we believe is the only safe way to reopen the american economy. and the reason it's called 1-3-30 is we have been stuck at 1 million tests per week for about the last three weeks. and we believe we can get from 1 to 3 million tests p s per week america very quickly in about eight weeks' time. we can do that by unlocking about two thirds of america's molecul

another of them he was the first head of the rockefeller institute, a very interesting guy a juvenile delinquent, his father, you know the program is scared straight these days were they take kids and walk them through jails and his father actually did this to him when he was a teenager, a plumber refused to take him on as an imprint apprentice because he was such a troublemaker but he got a job in the pharmacist -- with the pharmacist, the pharmacist had a microscope and he told this guy don't go near the microscope. [laughter] that was not the right way to handle simon p he did go near the microscope and he found a world there that enthralled him and he became the first head of what is now rockefeller university, a brilliant scientist, how good was he, today according to medicine, bacterial meningitis in massachusetts general hospital, one of the best hospitals in the world has a 25%ho mortality rate in 1910 he had a treatment for bacterial meningitis that had a mortality rate of 18%. better than today in the general hospital. another character, i dedicate the book to carl lewis, no

the rockefeller foundation has been looking at that to come up with a plan.are joined now by their president raj shah. you have a fairly comprehensive plan that you have laid out, a big one, $100 billion. what does it go toward? raj: thank you for having me. it is true, if we are going to get america back to work in a manner that is safe and prevents rebound occurrences of this crisis and pandemic, we need a massive scale up of testing. our plan is a 1-3-30 plan. one million tests a week right now to 3 million in eight weeks, and then to 30 million tests per week by early november. we have presented a set of the consensusave agreement of economists, scientists, industry leaders, and government officials from both democratic and republican administrations. this is a nonpartisan action plan that could help the american economy get back on its feet. a week,0 million tests that is a tall order. how did you come up with that number? raj: the number is basically what is required to reach groups who need critical access to testing when the economy is functional. tha

so for example in my three years with, i was in a suite with david rockefeller and another guy, spencer worden from the board and i guess some milk company folks and their theory was i would make rockefeller a better banker. and i'm not quite sure what they thought he would make me a rat but maybe i would understand what's more or the system more, whatever but they were really good people in this journey. >>. [inaudible] >>. >> i wonder if they tried to get jobs to the 18 and getyou in good spots , >> if you go to harvarddon't need any help . >> that's the thing, it does give you an edge. what happened is when i went into advertising, most of the and even now if you look at some of the people in tv, news, they're all from, a lot are from ivy league schools and does give you and allegra so even if it'ssubconscious sometimes . >> did you find they had a nicestart in their career ? >> yes, they all have nice start read some went to law school, some were pretty successful on wallstreet . one gave up wall street and became an anglican priest down in st. thomas. >> more than half of them cont

the rockefeller institute and now rockefeller university.people worked slavishly to come up with a vaccine but why do not succeed and why did they come up with a vaccine in why don't we have vaccine for the current pandemic? >> number one they did know what caused us so you can develop a vaccine unless you know what the pathogen is. number two as we have learned since we still don't have great vaccine against influenza because it's one of the most rapidly mutating viruses in existence it is very difficult to develop a vaccine. i think there has been a lot of progress in the last 10 years or so towards a vaccine that will work against all influenza viruses or almost all of them so you won't have to get a new vaccination every year. there has been enough progress and that role is likely to be achieved but is still out there. >> first of all you presumably get a flu shot every season. >> yeah. >> and you highly recommend those as well? >> yes because even though they are not tremendously effectively like the measles or yellow fever vaccine infl

institute, not rockefeller university. these people were slavishly to come up with a vaccine but why did not succeed? why do did not come up with a vaccine? how can we don't have a vaccine yet for the current pandemic? >> number one, they did know what causes so you can't develop a vaccine unless you know what the pathogen is. number two, as we've learned since we still have a great vaccine against influenza, because it's one of the most rapidly mutating viruses in existence. it is very difficult to develop vaccine. i think there's been actually a lot of progress in the last ten years or so towards a vaccine that will work against all influenza viruses, or most all of them so you have to get a new vaccination every year. there's been enough progress, that that goal is likely to be cheap but it's still out there. >> you are, a person of resume he gets a flu shot every season? >> yes. >> and you highly recommend those as well. >> was yes, because even though they are not tremendously effective like the measles vaccine or yel

i also think what they're doing at rockefeller is critical to identifying the gaps. already seen in the united states there are populations who have been overlooked and they are consistently being overlooked. we need testing, in and of itself is not the answer, though we still do not have enough tests. we need to make sure access to testing and access to health care professionals that can then do the contact tracing as rajv described, that's critical. the final piece of this is the isolation, and i mean having people positive be identified. what you covered earlier about cases that cropped up before washington state, andrea, i think that's the tip of the iceberg. i think we're going to learn that was way earlier than anybody expected. >> very serious warning there. dr. patting, rxel, rajv, we hav leave it there. thank you very much. >>> and earth day around the world and the world planning to celebrate earth day. because of the pandemic the celebrations will be virtual. the good news is the global economic shutdown has at least produced a dramatic decline in pollutio

in the middle right is nelson rockefeller. on the lower left is the man who just became a republican ronald , reagan. clearly, him being chosen as the narrator of this important republican party record was approved by dwight eisenhower. i have listened to the record many times. i have for you a slight little recording of it. it emphasizes the themes of the republican party to today. individual freedom, small government and at the republican party has a wide inclusive tent. it can accommodate conservative republicans as well as liberal republicans like nelson rockefeller. listen to the voice of ronald reagan from 1962. >> now we hear from one who has served his country all his adult life. crowning that service with two terms as president of the united states, dwight d. eisenhower. >> thank you, mr. reagan. dr. kopelson: that is 1962. a lot happens. the next year is the john f. kennedy assassination. his vice president lyndon johnson becomes president. now it is 1964. lyndon johnson is running for the presidency. the republican

joining me is president of the rockefeller foundation.e is a chief stcientist for united states department of agriculture in the obama administration. rashaw joins mie now. good to socially distance and see you. let me start one thing to make clear. the meat is fine. the meat is not contaminated. no concern about the virus that way. but walk us through, raj, what folks should expect now that our food supply chain has been disrupted like this? >> thank you for having me and thank you guys for doing great reporting on this issue. the reality is, you're right. the food supply is safe. this is not a food safety issue. this is, however, a dire worker safety issue and the loss of life is, of course, tragic and sad but the food supply system is concentrated. farm workers and food process workers are essential workers and they need certain protections to be able to work safely. right now, most americans who don't have symptoms, as the segment you just did, simply can't get access to a test and unless we have widespread access to diagnostic testin

the world that enthralled him, it was rockefeller university, a brilliant scientist, how good was it today for the new england journal of medicine, bacterial meningitis, massachusetts general hospital, one of the best in the world, 25% mortality rate. in 1910, flexner had bacterial meningitis, mortality rate of 18%. that event, another character i dedicate the book to, proved fully was a viral disease in 1907-1908 to buy a vaccine. protecting monkeys from polio in 1908-1909. another major character, the most important his in the history of american science and the medical infrastructure of the united states. had the power to change a man's life. one other guy you may have heard of, william garg us, the army surgeon general, every one of them, the rockefeller institute for medical research is incorporated into the military. they cut the death rate from yellow fever to 0 in havana and allowed the panama canal to be built. he actually had a nightmare and the nightmare was that during this war with 4 million soldiers, and epidemic was going to break out. he created oddly enough for pneum

guy, spender board 'from the borden -- the milk company folks and their theory was i would make rockefelleranker and i'm not quite sure what it felt he would make me better at, but -- [laughter] -- but maybe i would understand lights more or the system more but they were really the good people in this journey. >> i wonder is harvard as an institution why you succeeded when you got out in 1963. did they try to get grow good spots. >> if you good to harvard you don't need any help. >> that's the thing. it does give you an edge up. when i went into advertise, most of the -- even now if you look at the people in tv, news, they're all from -- a lot from ivy league schools and gives you a leg up. even if it's subconscious. >> did you feel you had nice start in a career. >> yeah. some went to law school. some were pretty successful on wall street. one gave up wall treat and became an anglican priest in st. thomas. >> more than half of them continued to in some vein work for civil rights, and most were very successful in whatever field they chose. >> right. >> not all. the were some sad stories, to

out to san francisco and -- republican convention, the entire family went and dad was there with rockefeller. they lost and had to regroup and we literally stopped, we drove back across country and stopped off at rockefellers ranch. so he and that could sit on the porch and say the republican party is going in a different direction, and they met in regroup. and then my dad, you know, from that point on kind of, well, he didn't live that much longer but he voted for candidates or supportive people he felt regardless of party were who he could support. >> host: what you did he pass? >> guest: 1972. october. he was 53. >> host: and the reason? >> guest: my dad had type i diabetes and heart disease. it runs in the males on his side. adult onset type one and he had a massive heart attack. >> host: you had two brothers. what happened to jackie junior? >> guest: jackie died in a car accident when he was 24. >> host: key features in your book. >> guest: he does. >> host: what do you remember about him? >> guest: i remember that he was -- i loved my older brother very much, and i remember he struggle

reading about a report charles schwab rockefeller. with a report has done in america. i read books on all the money product the new i read steve harvey's book you know all think like real success at black success. you know arkansas department of corrections they have tonight one more time i request to make a film interviews with you. they say that they're too short of staff to allow this . so. we're going to have to tell us your story on the phone is that ok for you ok your calls mr moran but you. i was too young back then to really grasp the magnitude of the devastation. and the pain that all of that is with calls on my family the victim's family and the big the children 'd and they you know i think about the. ringback 18 year old. man after he had planned to. rob someone at an a.t.m. machine for the purposes of getting the bad video $60.00 because after needed funds to pay for his cap and gown and get his bishop diploma. apple had the weapon in a. after the poster truck but the backside. i which failed to. drive a savage well. when it had that was needed a truck grab

rockefeller. i have forgotten this is an academic room. [laughter] the juxtaposition of the british empire and the transatlantic marketplace -- you guys are awake. george washington breaches the american revolution. nobody things about civil war at williamsburg. but think about williamsburg's colonial history in 1781, on washington's way to yorktown, there is just one single business open in williamsburg, not a bustling town. but our public memory commands colonial williamsburg, jamestown. and it is also forgotten during that time because in a few short weeks after williamsburg, a massive clash around richmond. and newspapers that were just getting ready to write about williamsburg switch, ok, we will write about seven days instead. the failures of scholarship over the last 150 years, only within last few years have we gotten decent books about the battle of williamsburg, the importance of the peninsula campaign, so why not write about williamsburg? some of the best books from our favorite historians, one in particular, has six pages about

you look down below at rockefeller center, the ice rink, it's a total dead zone.as trying to photograph the life of the city. it was interesting how humans were involved in the city, their spacial relationships, where they were, where they weren't. but today there's nobody there. >> reporter: six years ago, movie goers blanketed bryant park. this week it was as vacant as the stretch of 6th avenue beside it. the bus ing rooftop restaurant on fifth avenue now a place to stack chairs and benches until something changes. and the famous snarled traffic of the lincoln tunnel, he captured the crawl between new york and new jersey back in 2014. and then again tuesday at 6:45 p.m. usually rush hour. >> just esthetically as a photographer, was it more beautiful to shoot, less beautiful? >> it's kind of spooky. i mean, not super -- it's kind of like a haunted city. like a city where everybody left. it's odd. >> want to go over there? >> yeah. kind of look down and move on. it's not a good picture, to be honest. it's kind of depressing to be honest. the city is such a vital,

anthony fauci says we need to increase testing by doubling at least as old as the rockefeller foundationer what they say they are and we just had a meeting about it. we will have much more than doubling very soon. there are big believers in testing and there are some governors that don't feel as strongly about it at all. you understand that, they feel much differently. we're going with maximum texting because it's something we're very capable of doing —— maximum testing. i'd like you to answer that. mike? thank you, mr president. i hope the american people looking on today are as proud as the president as i am. of the incredible public and private partnership you heard from today. it was two months ago that we had done less than 10,000 tests for the coronavirus in the united states. because president brought together these incredible commercial lab, brought together the best known retailers in america, now, mr president, we have 5.4 million tests. as you said earlier today, we've done more than 200,000 tests ina single we've done more than 200,000 tests in a single day. as he met with go

so, he set up a system that he called the circle with jd rockefeller. if you control production you control pricing and every piece of the circle then you make all the money and he found ways to make all the money and it's interesting. many of you have probably visited the trail. i visited my wonderful wife and i love to go down to the country and see the two are. when they start to mumble and fumble in his 1920 and they are not sure how to explain it, these were very proud families have still to be very proud people that run the distilleries. it's one of america's great industries. but in 1920 the one thing happened that they do not want to talk about. when you go to the country it is probably george remus had come in and found a way to buy up the bourbon and get it into the black market. so, my thinking as the story becomes more public is not the distilleries should embrace the story. it's part of their story. there's nothing you can do about it now. you might as well find out what the truth was. they were proud people and the natural government decla

>> i like biographies, the biography by ron of rockefeller comes to mind, titan was the book i reallyenjoyed because it showed not only what -- how wealthy rockefeller became but how much he improved american society in the process whether it was building black schools or -- or making things look cheap so everyone can enjoy them an not just the rich and you didn't have to stop working when the sun went down at night. ind really enjoyed the history lesson i got out of that in addition to learning a lot about rockefeller himself. a lot of the books i'm reading nowadays are for the research for my intellectual biography of tom sole, that's taking up a lot of my time, but the rockefeller book comes to mind, i'm also reading a book called the warmth by isabel wilkinson, former new york city reporter who wrote about black migration out of the south, my wife recommended it, i just started that one. i'm enjoying it so far. >> if viewers want to follow you on social media, what can they do so? >> i'm on twitter at jasonriley jasonrileywjs. >> jason riley joining us on book tv in-depth, we than

jha, others i think the rockefeller foundation said you need 10 million per day. the white house is now saying they're at 200. you're saying you need 500,000 and there are some saying you need 10 million a day. what accounts for that range? >> our approach was we're trying to come up with what's possible and realistic given this white house, given this federal government. and we said 500,000 if you have a very aggressive contact tracing program. everybody who's got mild symptoms either you test them, you contact trace everybody, you isolate everybody. at 500,000 tests a day, you have a shot, a long shot but a shot at keeping the economy open. the rockefeller foundation, others saying tens of millions, that's where i'd love to get to. that lets people actually feel comfortable getting back to economic activity. i have no disagreement with their numbers. and just think we can't even get 300,000 tests a day. i don't know how we get to 10 million with this federal leadership. >> a white house official telling cnn tonight that their goal which is not the 200,000, this

that's what we're focused on and why we're launching a national strategy to do that. >> the rockefelleroundation which played a crucial role in the 1918 pandemic actually, a book i just read which is great about the great influenza and features the work of that institution which was new at the time and extremely influential in battling back that pandemic. there's a piece in bloomberg today about u.s. labs still stuck on testing. we have ramped up testing incredibly. but what's the difference in where we are now in testing and what you would envision. would everyone at every point of care be able to get one like the flu test that you get in a few minutes? is that what we would need at scale? >> yes, absolutely. that's what we would need at scale both for the pcr or diagnostic test and for very rapid, very cheap serum antibody tests that would allow people to congregate again because they know it's safe to do so, and they know if someone is unsafe they can't be in that place. keep in mind it'll take 12 to 18 months to have a vaccine solution and potentially longer than that to get the man

you read the history books you can find one with rockefeller reaching his hand out it was like a real work of art actually done as a color a color lithograph. there are a couple of caterpillars here from pucks magazine, probably the oldest ones. then these ed feldman and covington, i think would be sort of the next ones. the vault man cartoons are almost all from the reagan era. i think that was when richard and i've seen that people were failing to recognize jeanne kerr patrick. when i would come in to have a drink, some of the bartenders would come in and then you help with say they're constantly being asked about these people. well that is bob dole, don't you remember bob dole? no i don't remember bob dole. this wall is a mishmash of other cartoonists work. this is richard thump son, that's me. these are a couple of colored vault ones. these are water color images. obviously done in the 1970s. richard thompson's style is just -- as a cartoonist, it is just such a beautiful combination of loose line. he was influenced a lot by some of the great english cartoonists, but he took it to

i think we need to go farther than the rockefeller report asks. let's think about whether that's feasible. this nation produces 350 million cans of soda every day. if we can produce 350 million cans worth of soda a day, we can produce 30 million tests a day. what does it take to get all the soda? pay the people in the industry about 45, $50 billion a year to produce all that soda. if we spend as much money on tests, we could have all the tests we need. >> professor paul romer, where were you when i took that class. >>> john, we want to take a moment to remember some of the nearly 47,000 americans lost to coronavirus. 70-year-old worked at the star market grocery chain in belmont, massachusetts, for 25 years. packaging produce. friends say the filipino immigrant was always smiling, laughing and making jokes. she leaves behind three children and six grandchildren. >>> donna dare's children couldn't be with him in the final hours at the hospital. but a nurse offered to put the phone next to his ear. he was unable to speak. but for 30 hours, the four

optimally we need logistics support including the rockefeller foundation which announced this week a major initiative along with other private organizations to help states and local governments with the logistics and they are working them out right now. moderator: we have a hand raised. steve, you should be an muted now if you have a question for dr. mcclellan. he is having: trouble hearing you. steve: you mentioned vaccine, as a former fda commissioner, what do you think about these calls to inject disinfectant into the body or using ultraviolet light? dr. mcclellan: that is not a good idea. people really need to understand that disinfection is very important for surfaces. there are very affective disinfectants for killing the virus and that is a critical part of reopening. we need to keep our businesses clean, our common services clean. you will see deep cleaning and disinfection as part of this effort. that is completely different from the treatments for people who have covid-19. interesting disinfectant or anything like that is not -- it is still poisonous and it is not a good id

rockefeller center is almost deserted these days. helps keep employees safe, but it can also complicate getting things done. how can companies endure this outbreak without sacrificing productivity, passion or perspective? good questions for simon sinek. his ted talk on inspired leadership is among the most watched ever. his latest book is called "the infinite game." welcome. >> thanks for having me. >> i'm sure a lot of businesses are looking forward to getting back to normal, but this may be a more permanent shift than some of them would like. our colleagues over at cnbc have reported on how some workers hope that telecommuting stops being a perk, and researchers at the university of chicago who estimate that a third of all jobs in the u.s. could be done remotely. so for businesspeople who are shaking their heads or maybe shaking their fists and saying, i didn't sign up for this, what is the best thing they can do to adapt to this change? >> so we have to remember that the fundamentals of leadership still remain the same whether you

thcountry will need to do 20 million tests a day to get a handle on e pandemic the other by th rockefeller foundation calls for 3 to 30illion tests a week which would st around billion. both propals however castdoubt on america's readiness to relax social distancing measures which some states are already as we just mentiod are starting to do. and the fda s authorized the first at me test for coronavirus they're called pixel by the company lab corp and will be allowing patients to collect thr own nasal swab samples at home and then mail in the results. according to the fda lab corp will make the tests avaible in most states in the coming weeks. we all need a doctor's order to be able to puhase the at-home test kit. here in the bay area for a second week a mobile clinic with rapid results. today was set up in pleanton and kron 4 street journal reports the test is availae to anyone who wants it. >>in order o flatten the curvof novel coronavirus doctors say we need as many people as possibleto get tested for covid-19 have opening so. plate not through health care provider tban health rapid tes

know, there's the wonderful standard oil cartoon of the oil tank with tentacles of the octopus of rockefeller reaching out. to call it a cartoon is almost putting it down because it was a real work of art. i mean, it was like an oil painting. actually done as a color lithograph. there's a couple of keplers here from "puck" magazine. those are probably the oldest ones in the bar. and then these ed vaultman be and ron covington, who's over in this corner, would be sort of the next ones. the vaultman cart tooons are alt all from the reagan era. and i think that's -- that is when richard and i were brought in, it was when people were failing to recognize jeane kirkpatrick and people like that. i've had the bartenders, when i've come in to have a drink, some bartenders will come in or new help, we'll go around and will you help us? because they're constantly being asked, who are those people? that's bob dole. don't you remember bob dole? they shrug, no, i don't remember bob dole. this wall is sort of a mix -- a mismash of different cartoonists' works. that's richard thompson. that's me. another ri

end of epidemics the looming threat to humanity and help to stop it he's also affiliated with the rockefeller foundation and with duke university dr quick joins me tonight from durham north carolina dr greg it's good to have you on the day let me just get your opinion here 1st do you believe the president will withhold funding indefinitely or do you think he's just bluffing. well i mean i think what's happened is like decimating the fire command center for a major city a blaze it's going on all over the city at the height of it i mean i think it's extremely unwise and untimely i will would presume to to take to guess what what the what's behind that but i think that yeah there is the w.h.o. response probably not been flawless and but this is not the time to debate that because they they really have led in this fight but what will you know as someone who has worked with the w.h.o. do you do you see this as an attempt by the president to scapegoat the w.h.o. . well yeah i mean it it's hard to see it. it's hard to see any logic of it because you know the world health organization has done a supe

country will need to do 20 million tests today to get a handle on the pandemic the other by the rockefeller foundation calls for 3 to milli test a week which would cost around billion both proposals however, ct doubt on america's readiness to relax social distancing measures would some southern states are already starting to do. well the fda has authorized the rst at home test for coronavirus they're called pixel by the company last core and itwill allow patients to collect their own nasal swab mples at home and then you just mellon your results. according to the fda lab corps will take the test available in most states in the ming weeks. you'll need a doctor's order to be able to purchase the at home kit tests for so make sure you do that. well lawmakers and local immigrion attorneys are reacting to the president's plan for a new immigration ban. some thk it is a smart move for the country during know theythink that the you president is ing the coronavus to push an anti immigration agenda. kron four's noelle bellow reports. >>initial ban that the president had initiated a wle back prevent